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Do you know which boat it is in en solitaire?
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... Obviously not "stowaways" like in "En Solitaire" but fellow sailors rescued from their boats in the Southern Ocean and carried all the way to the finish. Indeed, the movie that really needs to be made is of Peter Goss' miraculous rescue of Raphael Dinelli from his overturned boat in a full gale. I confess that reading Goss' account in his book brought tears to my eyes. Goss carried Dinelli the rest of the way around the world to finish the race. (Note: These days Dinelli is roaring about the world setting records in his "Maserati", a very beautiful boat.)

Now, I'm hoping the new Robert Redford film might be different, in this respect, because it focuses precisely on one of the biggest fears / risks facing offshore sailors - collision at sea and having to abandon your boat. From what I've read, the film focuses on the psychology and emotions of that experience, which sounds like a good thing.

Anyway, I will probably rent "En Solitaire" on DVD just for the sailing footage, and maybe the story will not be too laughable. And hopefully lots of real sailors got some employment during the filming.
I guess that in what regards sailing scenes the En Solitaire will be a lot better. They have counsel of some of the best solo sailors and as French audience that will see the movie is probably a lot more knowledgeable than the one that will see the American movie (that looks for higher audiences). If not well done it will come rapidly a laughing stock.

I agree with you about Dinnelli rescue by Goss. That was one of the more epic moments of all racing story. It should be put on movie no doubt. I had already posted about it on this thread.

Regarding Maserati you are not confusing Dinelli with Soldini?

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Do you know which boat it is in en solitaire?
The boat is Initiatives-Cœur used by Tanguy de Lamotte on the last Vendee. It had already a lot of names since it is an old boat that has already completed three Vendees (circumnavigations) and many other races. It is a 1998 design by Marc Lombard.

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Regarding Maserati you are not confusing Dinelli with Soldini?

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Yes, I am confusing them. The names of those professional Italian sailors all sound the same to me.

Except that Dinelli is French, not Italian.

Doesn't look like he's been doing any serious sailing lately, but is doing a lot of work in the area of sustainable power generation, which is a good thing.

Perhaps I should write a screenplay on the Goss-Dinelli rescue and see if I can find a producer?

Another great story is the superb battle between MichDes and Ellen MacArthur in the 2001 Vendee Globe. Might find a good market among younger women, particularly as MichDes is pretty good looking.
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Perhaps I should write a screenplay on the Goss-Dinelli rescue and see if I can find a producer?

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That should be interesting and it does not seem difficult to me...I mean it would not be a very expensive movie and it has the potential to be a great movie. A dramatic one with great sailing images That's a great sailing story.

I am afraid that is a better project to be presented in UK or France where that story is well know and almost a legend.

If this movie is a success It is very probable that someone advances with that proposal.

Are you serious? You work with that stuff, I mean screenplays?

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Mini Transat - movies

Since we have not the movie of the finish...because there was not a finish, some movies with some of the guys that are in the race during the training period and even a start, not a general one but a particular one.


Le Départ de Pifou - Mini Transat 2013 by Skypifou


Pifou au départ de la Mini Transat 2013 - 755 by Skypifou










En route vers la minitransat ! by benoitmarie_navigateur


Mini Transat 2013 - Julien Pulvé N°802 - Teaser by julienpulve


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Viko Yachts: Hanseboot-Premiere VIII: Viko 30S - Yachten + Jollen*|*YACHT.DE

Shares the hull with the Comet 31s. Interesting...
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Viko Yachts: Hanseboot-Premiere VIII: Viko 30S - Yachten + Jollen*|*YACHT.DE

Shares the hull with the Comet 31s. Interesting...
Very interesting and for 30 000 euros already with 19% of VAT

I don't think it is the same hull but a similar hull designed by Sergio Lupoli, that is also the designer of the Comet 31s. Transoms and hull design on that area are slightly different.











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30000 is the trade fair price. And it is without engine (9000€)...
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ViKo 30 / Comet 31s

Regarding that statement by yacht.de that those two hulls were the same it seems that someone has not done its home work and probably took for granted something that the guys from Viko had said.

In fact the two hulls are designed by the same NA (Sergio Lupoli) and share some common points as it is natural but the dimensions and the transom are different. Not the same hull at all.



The Viko 30 dimensions on the version with the fixed keel:

Hull lenght -......... 9,74 m
Max beam -.........3,28 m
Displacements -...2750 kg
Draft-................1,75 m
Ballast weight -...900 kg
Engine/ Type -....Sail Drive 15 HP /Outboard 15 HP
Mainsail -............25,00 m2
Genoa -.............. 21,50 m2
Gennaker -..........75m2



the Comet 31s dimensions:

Hull lenght -.........9,27 m
Max beam -.........3,48 m
Displacements -...3900 kg
Draft-................1,90 m
Ballast weight -...1090 kg
Engine/ Type -....Sail Drive 20 Hp
Mainsail -............32,80 m≤
Genoa -.............. 24,00 m≤
Gennaker -..........85 m2

The Comet is bigger, heavier, carries more sail and can be matriculated as an A boat while the Viko the max category it can reach is B. The Comet is also more expensive and has a better quality interior.

Regarding that difference in transom / hull design that was the first difference I saw clearly, take a look:





Different but at least as interesting, specially considering the lower price:





I would not expect the same quality in both boats but for someone that is interested in a 30ft and has not the money for a Comet 31s or a Elan 320, it deserves certainly a better look. The difference in price, even considering the 9000 euros difference for a boat with sail drive, is quite considerable.

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