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This is a wonderful design Paulo, don't let me be misunderstood.
But I still would't even do the ARC with it unless I had an engineer on board .

E.g. I wouldn't like the hydraulics to let me down when I want to roll the solent in a squall. Manual back-ups will always be a B plan on boats designed for push-button sailing, in this example it would mean going on deck to lower the sail.

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Not so, instead of pushing a button you will have to do exactly the same you have to do on your boat: from the cockpit you will use the winches manually. No need to go on deck.

Regarding the hydraulics its funny you have so much doubts about it when your boat has a swing hydraulic keel

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Re: Aureus XV

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...Regarding the hydraulics its funny you have so much doubts about it when your boat has a swing hydraulic keel

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To swing a 2.2 ton keel there's not really any realistic alternative to hydraulics (and with a 3m draft there's also not really any realistic alternative to a swinging keel, but this is of course another discussion).

But for maneuvring sails there certainly are alternative solutions, starting with winches that are sufficiently sized for manual operation.

I know from experience (manipulating the keel when the boat is being lifted = no engine = no hydraulics) that the manual back-up (plan B) is very hard work .

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Archambault 13

I knew that the boat was going to be a great racer but it seemed to me that it would be an even more radical boat (in what regards cruising amenities) than the other A boats. It seems that it was their first intention but....:

"However, having given the design some more thought the designers Joubert- Nivelt and Fruschi along with Archambault have designed 4 versions of the brand new A13 ….

The A13 Cruiser, The A13 IRC comfort racer, The A13 IRC racer and the out and out stripped down A13 Racer."


COOL!!!!

"So the A13 basic designs consist of: 6.3 to 6.7 T, allowing planning at 60° from 12 Kts wind and at 120° from 15 Kts wind. IRC TCC between 1.16 and 1.18. Open cockpit with tiller or double wheels with seats and protection for offshore racing. "

Planning at 60º with 12k wind? COOL!!!!

and the better part is that the interior on the cruising version and even on the comfort racer looks really good

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Comfort racer:







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Hmmm, the pictures suggest it as a racer, not a comfort racer...

I really love the A13. 6.3-6.7t is the weight for the stripped down racer? I wonder what the other versions will have. More than 8t for the IRC comfort cruiser?

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Hmmm, the pictures suggest it as a racer, not a comfort racer...

I really love the A13. 6.3-6.7t is the weight for the stripped down racer? I wonder what the other versions will have. More than 8t for the IRC comfort cruiser?
You mean, the names on the pictures? don't let that fool you: that is a comfort racer not a boat made mainly to race Actually even on that version it has a relatively good cruising interior, much more comfortable than the one of a racer.

I guess those 400kg are the difference between a naked racer and the cruising version.

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Saphire 27

We talked already about this boat but after seeing its very good comparative sailing performance on the tests from the European boat of the year I think the boat deserves revisit.

The objectives of the builder where attained: this is a boat that can compete at high level on a regatta and a daysailer for the family. the Saphire 27 is easily transported. An interesting sailboat no doubt with a very attractive price.

SAPHIRE addresses to ambitious sailors who like to practice their sport with family and friends. They love high speed, pure sailing and racing but at the same time they want to use the boat for leisure and fun. People, who decide today to spend a weekend on another lake tomorrow with their family. Slip and trail without a crane! Easy and uncomplicated! People, who don’t want to spend all their money on one hobby only. People, who are young and ambitious in their spirit. They want to be among the winners on the sunny side of life. They want to enjoy. They want to share their passion. They want to race!...

PRADA Luna Rossa’s designer, Claudio Maletto and his team developed the most advanced one design production sailboat on the market!...

You don’t need a crane to launch SAPHIRE! The lifting keel with an easy and light to set carbon rig makes you free and independent. Launch the boat directly from the trailer and set the mast autonomously....

You don’t see it, you don’t hear it but it’s there! You can buy an electrical Torqueedo Outboard engine as an option which would be fully integrated below the cockpit with a remote control....

SAPHIRE is sold directly on boat shows and on the web to offer you the very best price! Direct delivery to your home address. The boat is so simple, that you can do your first setup easily. This allows us to offer you the best price – performance ratio in the market. You have the opportunity to deliver the boat through a yard and we will take care that you get the “delivery package” from your yard.


Saphire Boats - Design it!

and in fact by 50 000 euros this boat offers a lot if compared for instance with a Jboat from the same size, much more expensive and less polivalent.





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You mean, the names on the pictures? don't let that fool you: that is a comfort racer not a boat made mainly to race Actually even on that version it has a relatively good cruising interior, much more comfortable than the one of a racer.

I guess those 400kg are the difference between a naked racer and the cruising version.

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6.7t for the cruising version is fantastic!

It's not only the title of the pictures but they name it the same way on the whole Archambault page. And there will be an even lighter racing (without IRC)-Version. I guess the IRC-comfort version will at least have one double berth and maybe al smaller locker (instead of a whole 3sqm room) for sail wardrobe, wet clothes and so on...
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It's not only the title of the pictures but they name it the same way on the whole Archambault page. And there will be an even lighter racing (without IRC)-Version. I guess the IRC-comfort version will at least have one double berth and maybe al smaller locker (instead of a whole 3sqm room) for sail wardrobe, wet clothes and so on...
That is easy to settle. Let's wait and see

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Sormiou 29

Since we are talking about small fast boats with a very spartan interiors at an affordable price, an interesting one that has not been much talked is the Sorminou 29:



The SORMIOU 29 was imagined by three great figures of the sailing world : the shaper J.P. Gallinaro, the architect O. Philippot and the world champion R. Sautieux, winner of 1991’s Admiral's Cup. Together, they created a dream yacht, the one they wish they could have purchased but simply did not exist on the market. Thanks to these men, the Sormiou 29 reflects qualities of an exceptional polyvalence:

• The most secure in its category
• Strong sensations, a ship both fast and easy to sail
• A great quality of life on board
• Amazing functional aesthetics
• Transport and parking made easy

The standard Sormiou S 29 come equipped with front and back crash-boxes with watertight bulkheads. The structure of the Sormiou S 29 is pretty much indestructible: the hull and deck are 23 mm thick 100% infused sandwich, reinforced by an infused composite structure that wraps around the keel, mast base and the midship frame. The 500 kg ballast, lodged in the profiled led bulb at a 2m depth provides the boat with a powerful righting moment.

The Sormiou 29 are unsinkable, even with a major hull breach. The floatation of the infused sandwich is completed with 1500 litters of foam, laid throughout the bottom of the hull. The Sormiou 29 all receive B category certification as standard. Should you wish to add two inflatable volumes in the storage compartments along the side of the hull, the Sormiou 29 becomes certified for tackling the Atlantic ocean in A category with 2 people on board.

Technical data

Hull length 8,81 m
Waterline length 8,30 m
Maximum beam 2,99 m
Structure 80% sandwich infusion 23 mm
Light displacement 1900 kg lège
Height to deck beam 1,75 m
Ballast 500 kg of which 400 kg in the bulb
Draught 1,95 m (fixed keel)
1,95 m/1,40 m (mobile keel)
Sails Mainsail: 25 m2
Genoa: 19 m2
Spinnaker: 60 m2 to 70 m2
Sleeps 5/6 people
Steering mono rudder 1,40 m
Engine Nanni 10 CV sail drive, or HB
Max speed Over 20 knots sailing downwind
Gauges 2012 IRC: from 0,999 to 1,002










Le Grand Pavois a été l'occasion de présenter la gamme 2014 à la presse. Les trois versions phares du S29 sont maintenues au catalogue, mais leurs équipements progressent pour les équiper en série des options les plus demandées. Ainsi le Genesis est dorénavant livré en série avec un mât carbone lui garantissant les mêmes performances et la même robustesse que ses grands frères. Le Cruiser est désormais équipé en série de coussins, d'une table de carré composite, de l'eau courante, d'un groupe froid inclus dans la glacière, etc. Quant au Racing, il ajoute à tous ses équipements carbone de série une delphinière, une table de carré et une table à cartes en composite, un moteur Nanni 14 CV, etc.

Cette politique d'options en série permet à nos clients de bénéficier de bateaux complets à des tarifs avantageux.


"The Sormiou S 29 is unbeatable when sailing downwind", said Marc Emig at the arrival of “Tour de Corse” after clocking an average 14 knots speed between Cap Corse and Ajaccio. "We were sailing at speeds over 20 knots on severa occasions, without ever breaking gear or getting a hard wipe out".

There will be two on the next Transquadra.

S 29 Cruiser
S 29 Genesis
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