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Garcia Exploration 45

The Aventura IV from Jimmy Cornel started to be an one off made by Garcia (that belong to Allures) under the specifications of Cornell, using the hull from the Allures 45.





The boat was designed to make a circumnavigation, one more by Cornell but this time going by the Northwest passage with lots of sailing on high latitudes but also lots of sailing on the tropics. So the boat was prepared not only to have a great ventilation but also a great insulation and also to be steered from the inside with a full all around view.

Well not anymore, I mean an one off, in only 3 months they have already 3 more commands and that is even before Cornell’s boat is ready (May). I bet this boat, that is also a true deck saloon, will be quickly a favourite among voyage sailors, specially the ones that will sail in high latitudes. The model was called “Exploration 45” and it will be a Garcia.

The hull is already made, in fact the hull and cabin and the boat is now in the phase of mounting all equipment.

Two movies, a short one that shows the hull and a bigger and interesting one about the boat, but unfortunately for some, in French.


18/11/2013 - Présentation du futur Exploration... por Voilesnews



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Aventura IV turned - a set on Flickr
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

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That's a beauty, the new Pogo 3

and something new, it is not a Finot/Conq design but a Verdier design.

Look at that bow. I guess we are going to look at many like that. I like it

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Why Pedote did not win the Mini - Transat - Fantastic story

My opinion about this sailor just went up. Somebody was mentioned he was not a top sailor....I did not agree then and much less now. Well, a top sailor on the Mini, when he passes to the Figaro class he would be average...at least for one year or two

The story:

First we have to talk about the first stage between Douarnenez and Sada canceled: "I had to have an advantage of about twelve hours. then, 48 hours later, I heard on the radio that the race would be neutralized in Sada. "

... "Having heard the message of the organization ...with the second well
way back I approached the Spanish port of Sada and try to find the finish line. A boat comes up to me and announces that there is no finish line , without telling me anything more.

I thought it was something serious, a death or a serious incident for them to decide not to finish the race. When I heard that instead it was just a matter of bad weather, I was pissed. The Race Direction did not had the right of not giving a classification due to the already expected weather conditions.

If the Director Denis Hugues saw the necessity to stop the race, he had to provide a classification through a passage point where he considered safe and that would allow a secure passage to Sada for all.

In my opinion he did not have the right to cancel everything.

Pedote then retraces his race from Sada to Point a Pitre. "I knew I had tpo take the same strategy as when the stage canceled. I put myself at the head of the fleet, going for winds as strong as possible (40 knots). ...The first night I was making 13 knots with 30k wind when the the head of one of the two rudders exploded.

... To repair the damage, I worked with the two arms in the water , with a key and eight small bolts. Meanwhile, I called Marie Benoit with the VHF asking him to inform the direction of the race and I had activated the buzzer that indicates "Presence on board." When I saw the head of the rudder I said to myself that my race was over. ... I do not know how I did it - and in an hour and a half I had made ​​the repair and went back to full speed again.

A hundred miles later I realize that there was a crack at the junction of the canting keel. Again I thought: "I'm screwed.". ... I was abeam of Puerto Calero but I realized that if I stopped there for repairs my race was compromised .. So I decided to continue. ... I have chosen to risk rather than finish second. " COULD NOT SURF WAVES ANYMORE "From then on it was all very stressful. From time to time I put the the boat on automatic pilot and put my hands on the crack to see if it was getting bigger.

I thought to try a repair with resin, but I did not. Luckily, otherwise I would not have been able to repair the broken bowsprit at 300 miles from the finish.

... I never expected to lose the race. This second place is dificult to accept. "

..We asked Pedote what have he changed on his boat (named Magnum) after ..he bought it to David Raison. "I worked..on the shape of the sails to fit the way I steer, but I am not still 100% satisfied. Then, I moved the mast forward to make it less ardent. Finally, I disassembled piece by piece the boat for knowing it by heart and always be able to know what to do in the race. ...



- See more at: Giornale della Vela - Gli Speciali | Pedote Ero partito per vincere ma successo di tutto Giancarlo Pedote parla a ruota libera dopo la delusione del secondo posto alla Mini Transat ma mai
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Re: Why Pedote did not win the Mini - Transat - Fantastic story

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My opinion about this sailor just went up. Somebody was mentioned he was not a top sailor....I did not agree then and much less now. Well, a top sailor on the Mini, when he passes to the Figaro class he would be average...at least for one year or two

The story:

First we have to talk about the first stage between Douarnenez and Sada canceled: "I had to have an advantage of about twelve hours. then, 48 hours later, I heard on the radio that the race would be neutralized in Sada. "

... "Having heard the message of the organization ...with the second well
way back I approached the Spanish port of Sada and try to find the finish line. A boat comes up to me and announces that there is no finish line , without telling me anything more.

I thought it was something serious, a death or a serious incident for them to decide not to finish the race. When I heard that instead it was just a matter of bad weather, I was pissed. The Race Direction did not had the right of not giving a classification due to the already expected weather conditions.

If the Director Denis Hugues saw the necessity to stop the race, he had to provide a classification through a passage point where he considered safe and that would allow a secure passage to Sada for all.

In my opinion he did not have the right to cancel everything.

Pedote then retraces his race from Sada to Point a Pitre. "I knew I had tpo take the same strategy as when the stage canceled. I put myself at the head of the fleet, going for winds as strong as possible (40 knots). ...The first night I was making 13 knots with 30k wind when the the head of one of the two rudders exploded.

... To repair the damage, I worked with the two arms in the water , with a key and eight small bolts. Meanwhile, I called Marie Benoit with the VHF asking him to inform the direction of the race and I had activated the buzzer that indicates "Presence on board." When I saw the head of the rudder I said to myself that my race was over. ... I do not know how I did it - and in an hour and a half I had made ​​the repair and went back to full speed again.

A hundred miles later I realize that there was a crack at the junction of the canting keel. Again I thought: "I'm screwed.". ... I was abeam of Puerto Calero but I realized that if I stopped there for repairs my race was compromised .. So I decided to continue. ... I have chosen to risk rather than finish second. " COULD NOT SURF WAVES ANYMORE "From then on it was all very stressful. From time to time I put the the boat on automatic pilot and put my hands on the crack to see if it was getting bigger.

I thought to try a repair with resin, but I did not. Luckily, otherwise I would not have been able to repair the broken bowsprit at 300 miles from the finish.

... I never expected to lose the race. This second place is dificult to accept. "

..We asked Pedote what have he changed on his boat (named Magnum) after ..he bought it to David Raison. "I worked..on the shape of the sails to fit the way I steer, but I am not still 100% satisfied. Then, I moved the mast forward to make it less ardent. Finally, I disassembled piece by piece the boat for knowing it by heart and always be able to know what to do in the race. ...



- See more at: Giornale della Vela - Gli Speciali | Pedote Ero partito per vincere ma successo di tutto Giancarlo Pedote parla a ruota libera dopo la delusione del secondo posto alla Mini Transat ma mai
Wow! What an ordeal to go through and still come up just 2 hours short of victory. But also, what an example of superb seamanship, in the classic sense of the MT - dealing with each problem on your own, with no outside assistance, while continuing to compete as hard as you can. And, of course, we can say the same about Benoit Marie, as well. Indeed, in Benoit's case, he knew from the start, as well as Pedote, that 747 was faster in most conditions, and that it would require everything he had to win the race.

Perhaps the most important thing to note, from all this, is that everyone apparently knew from the very beginning that the scow was fast, and that this would give Pedote an advantage, should he have the skill to take it (which he clearly did). And, so we now see the new Pogo 3 design from Verdier which incorporates some of the scow bow characteristics, though not in the extreme. And since this is a Series boat, Structures can afford not to go all the way because nobody else (one imagines) is going to build a scow Series boat that will be able to beat the Pogo 3.

The interesting question then becomes: will the Pogo 3 be able to beat most of the conventional Proto designs, thereby forcing new Protos to adopt the scow characteristics? It is not a trivial question because we have seen Belloir finish 6th overall in a Nacira 6.50, and one must assume the Pogo 3 will be faster than that, in the right hands.

Of course, as Paolo reminds me, the scow seems to have the biggest advantage in the Transat race itself, and perhaps not so much in other races. But I'm not so certain that's true, and if the Pogo 3 turns out to be a dangerous weapon, it may, as I suggested, still force the Protos to adopt the more radical design, regardless.

Watching some of the video of 747 in this year's race, it is so obvious to the naked eye why it's so fast off the wind. What is more difficult to understand is why it seems to be equally effective upwind. Only in light air does the extra wetted surface area prove detrimental to speed and performance. But nobody wants to sail in light air anyway.

So, I predict the Pogo 3 is going to kick all other designs off the podium once it gets into the hands of the top Series skippers.
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A look at the ARC

When it started I said I did not understood why all were following the direct route when it was obvious that there was no wind there and why so few choose to go North, were there were good wind all the way.

It seems that it was the organization that suggested that course, afraid that on the North the wind was too strong.

I had suggested that the best course was to going up till about Madeira latitude and then come down...fast. It seems that the guys from the Knierim 65 are following this thread because they had done just that and are already drinking beers in Santa Lucia when some are still near Cabo Verde.

They did not only went fast as they beat the record of this Transat. It seems that the time I have been following races had teach me a thing or two in what regards routing

It seems that many were afraid of the high winds they could get on that course but they never got more than 30k gusting 40, downwind and for not much time. Most of the time it was 15, 20K downwind. Certainly not conditions for a small boat but most 45ft boats, even cruising boats, would not have any problem with those conditions, providing the crew had a minimum of experience.

They could also went North and not going as high as Madeira latitude and having wind all the way, but less strong wind, with a max over 20/25K downwind. Most of the few cruisers that went North chose that option.

Why had the organization put them on that no wind and upwind course? I guess they knew that there was a lot of inexperienced sailors on that rally and they didn't want to take any risk and I agree with that. But I do not understand why more experienced sailors did not went North. Some went, but i am sure that many experienced sailors keep up with the organization recommendation even if they should new that they would get a very boring and slow transat.

To understand better the situation look here, they have a much better wind information and for 3 days:

Cartographie | Mini Transat 2013 - Douarnenez / Lanzarote / Pointe-à-Pitre

http://www.worldcruising.com/arc/eventfleetviewer.aspx

The boats on that direct route have no wind and then they will have head wind. Only in 3 days from now they will get better sailing conditions. The guys on the North are coming down full speed to escape stronger winds on the North and will have not any problem with a decent routing. I hope the boats have enough water and food because for some of those that chose the traditional route, it is going to be a loooong transat.

Regarding boats that are doing well, the main spot has to be for the Knierim 65. We had already talked here about the smaller Knierim but not about this one. I will get to it later but for now I should say that it is a new Design and one from Marcelino Botin. Yes the Spanish NA is one of the names that come high on this year's Transats: the fastest 40class racer, the Fastest boat on the ARC.

Definitively Botin got it right in what regards designing boats for a Transat and in two counts: Solo and Crewed. Congratulations to him with special relevance because the Knierim 65 was always ahead (and in about the same course) of the Russian VOR70 that arrived 2nd and at a considerable distance

As negative performance the one of the Gunboat 62, the big performance cruiser cat, that did not went as North as the two that already arrived, risks to be beaten also by two big and beautiful performance cruisers, a Southern wind 72 and a Nauta 78.

Again, as usually, the Marten 49 is doing a great race among the big yachts, going side by side with a Baltic 78.

The first 40ft boat is as usual a Class 40 pursued by a X 50, both doing a great race but no better than a wauquiez 45 that follows both. The first 40ft performance cruiser is a Pogo 12,50. That cruising Pogo 40ft is battling with ...a racing TP52. Besides the Pogo, the fastest 40ft performance cruisers are several First 40 (and 40.7), but at a very considerable distance.

On the real small performance cruisers going very fast and surrounded by much bigger boats, a Sunfast 3200, a Pogo30, an older and smaller Pogo 8.50 and a first 36.7.

Also doing a great and fast transat, A Dufour 45e, a Grand soleil 43, a Dufour 40.

Some other cruisers (not performance cruisers) going fast (and this one will put a smile on my friend Smack) a Belgian Hunter 36 (that have the balls to head North for wind), an American Southerly 42RS, a Van de Stadt Moorea 45, a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42, a Dufour 385, a Dufour 375 , two XC 45, a Bavaria 40 and a 42, an Amel super Maramu, a Southerly 110, a Dufour 425, a Bavaria 36, a Benetau Oceanis 411, a Bowman 42 and a Dufour 34.

This year we can also see a very poor performance from the Cats. Strangely no one among them went North for getting downwind medium to strong wind and they found themselves in weak conditions and many times upwind. The results were the expected and this year many big cats are being outsailed by smaller monohulls.
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Re: Why Pedote did not win the Mini - Transat - Fantastic story

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... Only in light air does the extra wetted surface area prove detrimental to speed and performance. But nobody wants to sail in light air anyway.

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Light airs and upwind with waves (at least some type of waves) even in strong winds. I remember David Raison saying that in the last Transat he was frightened with the punishment the boat was taking in those conditions and was afraid about breakage. David Raison don't seem to me the type of guy that is easily frightened so I guess his teeth should be rattling under the hard motion

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Nice, the new Pogo 40 S3. A Pity it was not ready for the last transat

PS:we all want to see photos of your new boat. Do you have photos of the building stages?

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Wauquiez centurion 57

Wauquiez has saved not long ago in extremis from bankruptcy and could not fail this boat....and I think it will fail

Nothing wrong with the boat that like all Centurion will be a fast boat and a well built boat but on this highly competitive market this boat needed more than to be a good boat. It is good but banal, nothing really interesting about it. It is nice but the interior without being bad is not really good with that white stripes and cabinets that look odd and out of place.



You can look at the interior here on a 360º photo:

Centurion 57 - Virtual tour | Wauquiez

The boat looks good but it is not one of the nicer Berret and Racoupeau designs. Nothing ugly but a bit heavy on the cockpit zone and completely devoid of WOW factor that is essential on this type of boats. Lots of more interesting designs around. I hope this one will not mark the end of Wauquiez.













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