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The strut on the mini looks a lot sturdier than the one on the django...
Besides - a mini weighs around a ton with roughly 3 - 400 kg in the bulb... If it is a heavy one...
And granted - race boats with their canting keels impose really big loads on the strut, especially if driven hard which is their usual state of motion...
Anyway, i would not feel safe with a thin strut like this one...

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I was afraid that was not true but that's confirmed. It will be very interesting to see the effect of that on the Sydney Hobart performance of the yacht.



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Bavaria 41 s

If someone wants a better sailing boat, one that could be more enjoyable to sail but does not want to spend a lot more on a performance cruiser, the Bavaria 41s can be the right solution.

The 41 has a nice well design Farr hull and has now a much better version for ones that want to enjoy as much sailing and cruising, the new 41s.

The boat comes with a bigger mast (50cms), more sail area, a bigger draft (2.30m), a better and deeper rudder, it is lighter, with more and bigger winches and a carbon spi pole. In the end we have significantly better sailing boat, not only faster but more agreeable to sail. If we join that to the much nicer cabin design and a better designed interior (from the 41) we will have a nice boat very hard to beat in what regards what offers: a lot of boat for the money.

The boat will cost about more 20 000 euros than the standard version (without sails). The price 169 220 euros including German VAT is very good even if you have to join about more 8000 euros for decent sails.











Have a look at the interior and storage space here (that is the regular 41 that in this regard is the same as the 41s):

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Bob Perry 60ft designed Yacht finds some great new owners

A 10 year old Bob Perry aluminium design built in Europe by Jachtbouw Folmer....

....has found some great new owners, a German couple ( Nathalie Müller e Michael Wnuknow) with two kids, that have meet at sea and have being travelling together for the last decade, first on a steel boat, the Iron Lady and now on Marlin, a Bob Perry design, that is doing now what was designed to do in first place.

The boat has won a new live and looks better than new.

They are a quite famous in Germany with a published book and a blog that has been many times presented on the "Yacht" German magazine one of the the biggest in Europe.

Das Buch: Sieben Jahre lang um die Welt - Panorama*|*YACHT.DE
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It is weird to have the genoa reefed if you have a jib on another furler...

The Sydney GTS43 is a blast. I am waiting for the 37 that fits me better!
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German YACHT magazine tested the SF3600 at 15-20kn: The had 7,1kn at 40° true, over 10 at 90°, 11,5 at 130° and 8,5 at 180...
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Aluyacht AY 480

We have already talked about the AY 480, the Italian aluminum voyage boat, one that shares some of the characteristics of the previous 60ft aluminum cruiser even if with a different keel and an overall lighter boat.



It is a Zerbinati design and the boat has an interesting story. It started to be a Dudley Dix design and then was bettered in many ways by Zerbinati.




















An interesting movie about the building techniques used and with some images of the boat sailing. Not for all since it is in Italian, but the ones that don't understand can have a better look at the boat anyway:



Naucat - nautical magazine :: EN :: Sailing Boats :: Cruiser :: AluYacht 480

Aluyacht - Italian Aluminium Yach

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New A35

The hull is the same but the changes are so many that this is truly a MkII, a new version.

One that is not visible is the deck and cockpit, alright we can see that the cabin is different but we cannot see that they are made using an infusion system (it was by injection) and that allowed to save a lot of weight that went almost all to ballast that is more substantial then before giving it a bigger RM (the boat as a very big B/D ratio).

The draft is bigger with 2.20m and rudder and keel were revised. The rudder is really deep and the keel has been perfected for IRC rating. Probably they will offer another version for the Transaquadra with a torpedo keel and two rudders.

The boat can have two wheels or a tiller and in that case the traveler changes position going aft.

The rigging was completely revised. They show on the movie the old boat and if you stop the movie you can see the considerable differences. It will remain a boat that can be sailed with a crew or solo.

And for last but not least, in what regards cruising the boat offers a decent storage on the cockpit, more storage inside and a much better interior, a very good one for such a high performance boat.

The price is a nice one, taking into consideration the performances: 155 000 euros (including 20% VAT), price for the Paris boat show.

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The new Elan 360 is not an entirely new boat, it shares its hull with the previous version, the 350. That could be bad news but not in this case. The 350 was a great sailing boat and its hull is still a very modern and fast one. The 360 is just a better and improved 350 and that’s good news.

The 360 is slightly lighter, has a better interior, a nicer cabin design and has a S version that is a considerably improved boat: 6% lighter with an epoxy hull, stronger laminated bulkheads and lighter furniture.





SPECIFICATION ELAN 360

Length overall ......................10,60 m | 34'9'' ft
Hull length........................... 10,60 m | 34'9'' ft
Length at waterline............... 10,10 m | 33'1'' ft
Beam.................................. 3,50 m | 11'6'' ft
Draft (standard / performance) 1,50 m / 2,15 m / 2,35 m | 4'9'' / 7'' / 7'8'' ft
Displacement........................ 5.350 kg | 11.794 lbs
Ballast (standard / performance) 1385 kg / 1300 kg | 3.053 lbs / 2.866 lbs
Water capacity..................... 175 l | 42,2 US gal
Fuel capacity........................ 75 l | 19,8 US gal
Engine.................................. 21,1 kW / 27,3 HP
Mainsail................................. 35,91 m2/ 386'4'' sq ft
Jib........................................ 29,68 m2 | 319'4'' sq ft
Gennaker............................... 110 m2 | 1.184' sq ft

Boat design category CE A
Design Humphreys Yacht Design & Elan Design Team


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The hull is the same but the changes are so many that this is truly a MkII, a new version.

One that is not visible is the deck and cockpit, alright we can see that the cabin is different but we cannot see that they are made using an infusion system (it was by injection) and that allowed to save a lot of weight that went almost all to ballast that is more substantial then before giving it a bigger RM (the boat as a very big B/D ratio).

The draft is bigger with 2.20m and rudder and keel were revised. The rudder is really deep and the keel has been perfected for IRC rating. Probably they will offer another version for the Transaquadra with a torpedo keel and two rudders.

The boat can have two wheels or a tiller and in that case the traveler changes position going aft.

The rigging was completely revised. They show on the movie the old boat and if you stop the movie you can see the considerable differences. It will remain a boat that can be sailed with a crew or solo.

And for last but not least, in what regards cruising the boat offers a decent storage on the cockpit, more storage inside and a much better interior, a very good one for such a high performance boat.

The price is a nice one, taking into consideration the performances: 155 000 euros (including 20% VAT), price for the Paris boat show.
This is probably the boat I've been waiting for, particularly after I was able to get the grand tour of the current A35 last October. I'd want it in Transquadra configuration, with twin rudders / strut and torpedo bulb keel, and probably with twin wheels rather than a tiller (though would want to see the boat in person first, before making that decision).

On the other hand, even without VAT (being in the U.S.), I estimate a new A35 would set me back about $200K USD, with sails, NKE pilot and electronics, at an exchange rate of 1.36:1. That's a bit unnerving for a 35 ft. boat, but comparable to a J/109 and less than a J/111, not to mention more value than both, in my opinion. Indeed, it is difficult for me to imagine not being completely happy with a new A35, even when compared to the new RM 980, the Django 7.70 and the Malango 888 (or anything in that length range from Elan).

My only hesitation would be an abiding lust for the new Dehler 38 - that extra 3 feet and corresponding interior volume would probably make my wife happier, though I'm hoping when she sees the A35 in person she will see what a big 35 ft. boat it actually is, compared to, say, the J/109 (which made her nervous about offshore passagemaking).

Time to get out a calculator and do some complex financial mathematics.
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