Iit is not logical to pass from a relatively slow boat to a top performance boat. There would have several boats in between, from a relatively fast cruiser like the Dufour 405 or the Jeanneau 409, to fast cruisers like the Jeanneau 409 with a performance rig or the RM 1200.
To me, that’s just silly. Why go in-between? The differences are too marginal for my tastes.
Of course you can, but I was talking about a decent speed. With 7K wind you will be doing about 3K, the Xp 38 will be doing about 6K.
You are telling me how fast my boat sails
Sorry, but this is where you are wrong. I do not do “3 knots” in 7k upwind, I do between 5,4 and 6. The moment wind drops below 7, however, you would be right, Ovni just loses it. I do log these figures and have done so for many thousand miles, including times between ports for a double check; you rely on the (not too many) tests that exist. Downwind, in the same wind and without the aid of a gennaker, you would be right, it manages only ½ wind speed in those conditions, not good, as I said earlier.
No, you are confusing true wind with apparent wind. When you say that you tack through 90º you are saying that you are making 45º to the true wind. What I am saying is that the Xp makes 30º to the true wind. That's a huge difference, as it was to be expected. Those 45º degrees would be obtained not easily. It would be needed a lot of wind.
I am not
confusing apparent and true wind, which is why I put the words in italics before - and I do actually understand that there's a fair way from this to 30º true
Of course 90º implied 45º - but you are again wrong when you say “not easily”. As I said, I use 45/90 as my rule of thumb
when tacking; I could push the boat higher but this is a good medium and easy for setting waypoints. It does not need “strong winds” to manage that. I have not mentioned sailing with the jib on inner stay – it obviously points higher with that. I can give you figures, I am not making them up.
I never sailed an Ovni 395, but on the many thousands of miles I have made with my Bavaria 36 (long keel, performance rig and good sails) I have always outsailed Ovnis (even the 435) and similar boats and I have a pretty good idea of their comparative performance.
Precisely, you have not sailed it. When you say “even the 435” it shows that you have not experienced enough of these boats. The 435 is not as good a sailor as the 395 – and the 365 is probably even better for its size.
I would never
try to say an Ovni is a match for Xp-38, but have tried to show that your comparison to a “jeep” is out of order. There certainly are “jeeps” out there, but they are in yet another league.
My very point, stated a few times now, is that Xp-38 is
We could – but should not – exchange figures and estimates forever, but it is our usage and intentions that differ and cause these differences. I am consistently referring only to performance in relation to purpose.
See my next post for a personal “statement.”
I am of course glad you like the Ovni
And I like Xp-38