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Re: Interesting Sailboats

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nice change to the helo music compared to the drama on the S2H start on channel 7
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Vendee Globe: Sailor's evolution

I had another look at an interesting movie about the 2000/2001 edition and what had impressed me more than the evolution of the boats is the evolution of the sailors: Now there seems to be several of them with the same quality that at that time only Michel Desjoyeux seemed to have, I mean the discipline the professionalism the seriousness. At that time, for many the Vendee was more an Adventure than a race.

Not for Desjoyeux then, not for several racers on the last edition from whom the Vendee was just a big race, the biggest of them all.

Have a look at the two movies and see what I mean:



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Hinckley B50

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A Modern Heir Is Born: The Hinckley Bermuda 50 | Rhode Island
Looks very european (in a positive way), and fast.
Congrats to Hinckley!
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Re: Vendee Globe: Sailor's evolution

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I had another look at an interesting movie about the 2000/2001 edition and what had impressed me more than the evolution of the boats is the evolution of the sailors: Now there seems to be several of them with the same quality that at that time only Michel Desjoyeux seemed to have, I mean the discipline the professionalism the seriousness. At that time, for many the Vendee was more an Adventure than a race.

Not for Desjoyeux then, not for several racers on the last edition from whom the Vendee was just a big race, the biggest of them all.

Have a look at the two movies and see what I mean
That is a bit unfair a comment to all the other competitors...
If you remember - michel had to fight for the win almost until the finish line because he was pushed by ellen mc arthur who lost out by a day eventually only because she hit a container in the north atlantic and had to do repairs...
And at the cape hoorn she was more than 600 nm behind, she even diverted to come to the aid for palier but still caught up with michel..
Palier was in the lead til he got dismasted and finished non the less with a jury rig...
Vendée Globe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to me only, the overall winner of this edition was ellen mc arthur...

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I love the boats from that era, because they could get converted easier to a cruiser than the radical designs from today... They had more freeboard, an enclosed cockpit, the hulls were not that focused on reaches having narrower sterns so they should have better windward abilities... If i had the money and could get my hand on one, i definitely would not hesitate and convert it to cruise in fashion and speed...

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A Modern Heir Is Born: The Hinckley Bermuda 50 | Rhode Island
Looks very european (in a positive way), and fast.
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Humm, I agree with all except with that thing about "looking very European". I agree with them when they say: A Modern Heir Is Born.

The Key word here is modern. The best Na from all the world design very similar boats when they design modern sailboats being them Americans, Europeans or from Oceania.

"The Hinckley Bermuda 50 is an advanced performance sloop that captures the best of design and technology. For sailors who wish to have a yacht they will be proud to cruise and race over many years, with the head-turning beauty and elegance that is unmistakably Hinckley, the Bermuda 50 is the modern day evolution of the Bermuda 40. "

http://www.hinckleyyachts.com/Sailbo...50_gallery.php

http://ri.usharbors.com/image-galler....hVlan0hd.dpuf

I like it, not so much the interior style, but the NA work (by Bill Tripp) is just great. A very nice boat with the particularity to have a big dinghy garage and that's just great for a 50fter.

I hope they succeed but I am not sure the American market, for whom they work most, are prepared for truly modern performance cruising boats. In Europe the competition is huge on that sector and for succeeding there I would say that they have to hire a top interior designer to give to the boat interior the same design quality it shows on the outside.







And some very interesting movies, one with the NA, Bill Tripp, talking aboutr the boat, other with the owner saying what he wanted as a performance cruising boat.





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That is a bit unfair a comment to all the other competitors...
If you remember - michel had to fight for the win almost until the finish line because he was pushed by ellen mc arthur who lost out by a day eventually only because she hit a container and had to do repairs...
And at the cape hoorn she was more than 600 nm behind, she even diverted to come to the aid for palier but still caught up with michel..
Palier was in the lead til he got dismasted and finished non the less with a jury rig...
Vendée Globe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to me only, the overall winner of this edition was ellen mc arthur...
Maybe you are right but I am talking about the way sailors behave. Ellem Mac Arthur is a strange case, a great sailor and a natural talent, no doubt, but that abandoned racing sailing where she was on her prime. Unheard in what regards professional sailors but an attitude we saw among adventurer sailors, like Lamazou, the first winner of the Vendee Globe, also a great sailor.

I am talking about the attitude: we saw all of them on that old movie mumbling around, some crying (including Ellen), all except Desjoieaux that seems completely focused on winning.

If you look at this year's movies you see that kind of attitude regarding some sailors but the top ones have a similar stance to the one that Desjoieaux had already 15 years ago, a professional racing one focused on max performance and victory.

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A great new year to all.

Last post of this year hopping and wishing to all a better 2014.

To finish the year some of the best sailing movies from 2013:

Middle Sea Race from Olivia Chenevix-Trench on Vimeo.





Onne Van Der Wal from Phil Suzemka on Vimeo.



FASNET 2013 by Rolex from Viento a Favor on Vimeo.

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Paulo - Thanks very much to you and all the other participants in this forum for enriching and informing my life in 2013. I've learned an incredible amount of useful information, kept up to date on the latest yachts, across the full range of designs, and shared the excitement of all the year's major races. This forum thread is a work of love for you that I hope has been rewarded by it's phenomenal success.

Very much looking forward to participating in the coming year and sharing the excitement of even more interesting boats, interesting races and interesting friends.

Happy New Year to you and your family.

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Re: Vendee Globe: Sailor's evolution

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I am talking about the attitude: we saw all of them on that old movie mumbling around, some crying (including Ellen), all except Desjoieaux that seems completely focused on winning...
that's a little bit unfair... mc arthur cried when she opened her christmas presents...
and not everybody is an emotionless robot like desjoieaux or gabbart, which is michels scholar...

regarding the hinckley 50:


are these tiles on the floor?
looks wired and not to my liking but a beautiful and sleek boat non the less...

all the best for 2014 also from my side and thank you for this thread paulo!
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Thanks Paulo.. incredible effort keeping this thread alive and fascinating, for participants and lurkers alike.

Happy New Year (though we've got another 15 1/2 hours to go!)
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