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Sydney-Hobart

The conditions continue to be very bad for the boats still sailing and many of these are small boats that are among the slower:

"“Boat breaking”. That’s how Andrew Wenham, skipper of the VO70 Southern Excellence II described the seas off the Tasmanian coast when he arrived at Constitution Dock this afternoon.

“The sea is coming from everywhere; the north-west swell is joining up with the new south-west swell, so it’s very shallow, very choppy,’’ he said.

“Four and five meter seas, big waves, a lot of them breaking. I would be seriously worried about the smaller boats that are still at sea tonight and tomorrow.”

Wenham said that during the last hours of the race, Southern Excellence II was seeing consistent 30 knot winds, which is pretty much what they expected, but it was the gusts that made it tricky.

“We got up to 45 knots, possibly up to 50 if you watched it that closely,’’ he said.
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The good news for the boats still at sea is that Matthew Thomas from the Bureau of Meteorology does expect things to get a little bit better, but still from the south west.

“Over the next six to 12 hours there’ll be 15 to 25 knots,’’ he said early this afternoon.

“As the boats get closer down to Maria Island winds will increase again. Currently there are gale conditions down there, wind speeds of around 30 to 35 knots for the southeast and lower east of Tasmania.

“There’s winds of 25 to 30 knots in Storm Bay, but they’re easing back and conditions will improve later today.”


Seas, not the wind, the big problem for the boats still at sea - Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race 2013
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It seems that a Victoire, a Cookson 50 raced by Darryl Hodgkinson will won the race in compensated time.
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Ok, let's have some REALLY fast sailing here:

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Cookson 50

This is a production boat and it had to be a NZ boat you are going to understand why, but for now it is enough to know that she has just won the Sydney Hobart in compensated.

It is made in two versions: A racer and a cruiser racer being the major difference a existence of a higher cabin since being this a semi custom boat the interior comfort and quality is left much to the owner desires. Both have cantig keels.

Initially, back in 2004 the boat was a racer with a flat cabin but today almost all have the cruiser-racer configuration, at least in what regards the cabin.

The hull is remarkably modern for a 2004 design (the cabin design is more recent). A very nice boat:









Anyway even the cruiser-racer is (on all cases I know) used much more as a racer than a cruiser but I don't see why the boat cannot be used as a performance cruiser.

They say about the boat design and program:

Affordable, fun to sail and fast, led to a new generation of yacht, the Cookson 50. The boat of the future complete with ultra modern interior. Working closely with the Farr Design Office, Cookson Boats developed and launched the prototype in November 2004.

Conceptuals for the Cookson 50 developed from reducing Transpac 52 hull shape to 50 feet, maximizing beam, and increasing freeboard for full headroom to produce an interior suitable for family cruising.

Fully equipped with a canting keel and trim tab/canard to maintain stability and minimize crew numbers makes the Cookson 50 a winner all round for the serious club racer with a view to successfully competing in any grand prix event he chooses.

To date, the Cookson 50 has shown remarkable performances reaching and running. She has proven capable of holding her own on the wind against some serious competition. She is a true multipurpose yacht, big and powerful unencumbered by any rule but fits within the rules of most major grand prix events.


Cookson besides producing this "affordable" production canting keel cruiser racer is one of the best custom builders of high tech racing boats having built for instance: Loyal (ex -Rambler), the VOR 70 Camper and several Open 60's boats. The boats are made of carbon, very though and very light and the Cookson 50 is no exception.

Look at the Cookson 50 dimensions:

LOA -50ft,,,, LWL - 15.24 m,,,, LWL - 13.85 m,,,, Beam - 4.30m,,,,Draft - 3.0m,,,,Displacement - 7000 kgs

and look how she sails:



Yes, a NZ boat It has the spirit and the speed.
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Re: Cookson 50

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This is a production boat and it had to be a NZ boat you are going to understand why, but for now it is enough to know that she has just won the Sydney Hobart in compensated.

It is made in two versions: A racer and a cruiser racer being the major difference a existence of a higher cabin since being this a semi custom boat the interior comfort and quality is left much to the owner desires. Both have cantig keels.

Initially, back in 2004 the boat was a racer with a flat cabin but today almost all have the cruiser-racer configuration, at least in what regards the cabin.

The hull is remarkably modern for a 2004 design (the cabin design is more recent). A very nice boat:


Anyway even the cruiser-racer is (on all cases I know) used much more as a racer than a cruiser but I don't see why the boat cannot be used as a performance cruiser.

[snip, snip, snip]

and look how she sails:



Yes, a NZ boat It has the spirit and the speed.

Let me tell you that those boys are sailing that boat like a Melges 24 - everyone at the back of the cockpit (except pit person, who probably has the vang control in his hand) and going like they were on the reaching leg of an Olympic triangle course, not out in 30+ knots and 10 ft seas, doing some serious ocean racing.

That's what I like to see. Serious crews doing serious racing when others might be triple reefed with a #4 headsail up. And I'd wager that as soon as the angle was right they put up the A5.

The only thing I might add is the boat looks like it could use some water ballast in the stern or a fuller bow section (telephone call for Mr. Raison, s'il veut plait).

Loved this video. Made my day.
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Vendee Globe: Sailor's evolution

I had another look at an interesting movie about the 2000/2001 edition and what had impressed me more than the evolution of the boats is the evolution of the sailors: Now there seems to be several of them with the same quality that at that time only Michel Desjoyeux seemed to have, I mean the discipline the professionalism the seriousness. At that time, for many the Vendee was more an Adventure than a race.

Not for Desjoyeux then, not for several racers on the last edition from whom the Vendee was just a big race, the biggest of them all.

Have a look at the two movies and see what I mean:



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Hinckley B50

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A Modern Heir Is Born: The Hinckley Bermuda 50 | Rhode Island
Looks very european (in a positive way), and fast.
Congrats to Hinckley!
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Re: Vendee Globe: Sailor's evolution

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I had another look at an interesting movie about the 2000/2001 edition and what had impressed me more than the evolution of the boats is the evolution of the sailors: Now there seems to be several of them with the same quality that at that time only Michel Desjoyeux seemed to have, I mean the discipline the professionalism the seriousness. At that time, for many the Vendee was more an Adventure than a race.

Not for Desjoyeux then, not for several racers on the last edition from whom the Vendee was just a big race, the biggest of them all.

Have a look at the two movies and see what I mean
That is a bit unfair a comment to all the other competitors...
If you remember - michel had to fight for the win almost until the finish line because he was pushed by ellen mc arthur who lost out by a day eventually only because she hit a container in the north atlantic and had to do repairs...
And at the cape hoorn she was more than 600 nm behind, she even diverted to come to the aid for palier but still caught up with michel..
Palier was in the lead til he got dismasted and finished non the less with a jury rig...
Vendée Globe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to me only, the overall winner of this edition was ellen mc arthur...

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I love the boats from that era, because they could get converted easier to a cruiser than the radical designs from today... They had more freeboard, an enclosed cockpit, the hulls were not that focused on reaches having narrower sterns so they should have better windward abilities... If i had the money and could get my hand on one, i definitely would not hesitate and convert it to cruise in fashion and speed...

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Looks very european (in a positive way), and fast.
Congrats to Hinckley!
Humm, I agree with all except with that thing about "looking very European". I agree with them when they say: A Modern Heir Is Born.

The Key word here is modern. The best Na from all the world design very similar boats when they design modern sailboats being them Americans, Europeans or from Oceania.

"The Hinckley Bermuda 50 is an advanced performance sloop that captures the best of design and technology. For sailors who wish to have a yacht they will be proud to cruise and race over many years, with the head-turning beauty and elegance that is unmistakably Hinckley, the Bermuda 50 is the modern day evolution of the Bermuda 40. "

http://www.hinckleyyachts.com/Sailbo...50_gallery.php

http://ri.usharbors.com/image-galler....hVlan0hd.dpuf

I like it, not so much the interior style, but the NA work (by Bill Tripp) is just great. A very nice boat with the particularity to have a big dinghy garage and that's just great for a 50fter.

I hope they succeed but I am not sure the American market, for whom they work most, are prepared for truly modern performance cruising boats. In Europe the competition is huge on that sector and for succeeding there I would say that they have to hire a top interior designer to give to the boat interior the same design quality it shows on the outside.







And some very interesting movies, one with the NA, Bill Tripp, talking aboutr the boat, other with the owner saying what he wanted as a performance cruising boat.





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Re: Vendee Globe: Sailor's evolution

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That is a bit unfair a comment to all the other competitors...
If you remember - michel had to fight for the win almost until the finish line because he was pushed by ellen mc arthur who lost out by a day eventually only because she hit a container and had to do repairs...
And at the cape hoorn she was more than 600 nm behind, she even diverted to come to the aid for palier but still caught up with michel..
Palier was in the lead til he got dismasted and finished non the less with a jury rig...
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Not to me only, the overall winner of this edition was ellen mc arthur...
Maybe you are right but I am talking about the way sailors behave. Ellem Mac Arthur is a strange case, a great sailor and a natural talent, no doubt, but that abandoned racing sailing where she was on her prime. Unheard in what regards professional sailors but an attitude we saw among adventurer sailors, like Lamazou, the first winner of the Vendee Globe, also a great sailor.

I am talking about the attitude: we saw all of them on that old movie mumbling around, some crying (including Ellen), all except Desjoieaux that seems completely focused on winning.

If you look at this year's movies you see that kind of attitude regarding some sailors but the top ones have a similar stance to the one that Desjoieaux had already 15 years ago, a professional racing one focused on max performance and victory.

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