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More about Stamm's accident

Stamm give an interview to the French Newspaper Figaro and some more information come to the light, namely what was already suspected: they sailed in "normal" conditions for that type of boat and the causes of the accident are unknown. They are tryng to understand how that could have happened.

Actualités Nautisme : l'actualité du nautisme au quotidien avec Figaro Nautisme

a translation of what is new regarding what he had already said and have already been posted:

The seas were big with waves breaking regularly but everything had been preview to face these weather conditions: We were under storm jib and with 4 reefs in the main. Everything was under control: We were sailing downwind in a way that was similar to evasive sailing, running with the wind. The boat was doing 12/13K (out of surfs) and it was behaving very well. I was at the chart table with Danien Guillou when, in a wave, we heard a huge crack: the boat break completely in two parts.

It is reasonable to sail in these conditions on delivery?

There was a lot of wind, that's for sure but we knew what we were doing and we knew about the weather conditions..
We knew that we were going to have 3 or 4 hours with very strong wind but these boats are made for that.

We had 45K and some tomes 50K. We don't prepare for circumnavigations sailing in Britany with 15k winds.

Even at the time were the accident took place, we didn't feel the need to diminish the sail area and go to bare poles and that is a possibility in very strong winds. The boat was going well....and if we didn't stop we would only have one more hour of strong wind before it start to diminish...

The problem was with the boat, that is designed to sail on big seas, and broke in two....one thing is for sure: we were sailing much lower than the boat potential (under-speed) ... that's what is incredible. When we are racing and we are attacking exploiting the boat full potential..., then we are stressing the boats, but on this occasion we sailed in complete security and the boat was very little stressed. That makes no sense.

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Re: Interesting Sailboats

My dream boat now is the MD-35, a very narrow day sailer designed by Mills. Probably an interesting modification would be to install a DSS system!

Now a very little used MD-35 is for sale in Brazil for just $70.000. I hope that no one buy it before I get the money. (Maybe is an error to talk here about this Brazilian MD-35)
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Maxi Yachts: Daten der neuen Maxi 1200 stehen fest - Yachten + Jollen*|*YACHT.DE

Tech specs for the Maxi1200:

6,9t
2,6t keel, 2,2m deep
84sqm sail area
150l fuel
300l water

Really interesting if you ask me...
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

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My dream boat now is the MD-35, a very narrow day sailer designed by Mills. Probably an interesting modification would be to install a DSS system!

Now a very little used MD-35 is for sale in Brazil for just $70.000. I hope that no one buy it before I get the money. (Maybe is an error to talk here about this Brazilian MD-35)
You best grab it at that price. The one for sale in the U.S. is asking $149,000 / €109.000!
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I agree, move it fast!!!! you don't need all the money. Make a contract, give a signal and give yourself time to get a loan.
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You best grab it at that price. The one for sale in the U.S. is asking $149,000 / €109.000!
This price is crazy as a new one ready to sail (instruments, sails, trailer, etc) is around $180.000. in Buenos Aires, just 1000 km from my house.

I'm in contact with the owner, but I need more money to do a serious offer for the boat.
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Ker 50 C/R MKII

That's no joke. Some posts back I posted about a beautiful ker 50 performance cruiser that showed how fast it was on the Sydney-Hobart but Jason Ker has a brand new one for 2014. Well brand new maybe it is an exaggeration since they share the same hull, lifting keel and rudders but this one has a new cabin and is even nicer...and better for racing too since the cabin has less height.

No interior light? Plenty of it, almost all zenithal but also some port hulls with a view....and the interior is surprisingly nice.

The boat is made in China by McConaghy's and even made in China a top boat does not come cheap, it costs 1 million 350 thousand dollars, about the double of a XP50. Well, steroids are expensive

















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Traditional sailboats

Racing is racing but one thing is for sure: these babes need a lot of human ballast

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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Even if the Maxi 1200 is goodlooking and promising: So sad the dropped the plans for the Maxi 11 when Najad went into bankrupcy:

11m, target weight about 4,2-4,4t, 2,20 draft, perfect cockpit for racing and cruising...

The idea was to reduce weight consequently, e.g. by sofas in the saloon made of tubes covered with nets:






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Yacht-Entwicklung: Erste Skizzen der Maxi 11 - Yachten + Jollen*|*YACHT.DE
Maxi 11: Concept Sports Boat, Needs Your Input | boats.com Blog
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Even if the Maxi 1200 is good looking and promising: So sad the dropped the plans for the Maxi 11 when Najad went into bankrupcy:

11m, target weight about 4,2-4,4t, 2,20 draft, perfect cockpit for racing and cruising...

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Well, the new 1200 is light with 6.9T has a big B/D ratio and has a rigging very adapted to solo sailing (that's the part I like most) but the boat is a bit of a deception regarding the drawings I saw of the 11m. The designer is the same, the one that designs Maxi yachts for many years, Pelle Petterson, but the brief is different being the boat more performance cruising oriented and the hull is also different being this one a more classic one, less adapted to short crew sailing or racing.

But that is not what pisses me, what I don't like is the overall look, kind of a XP with Delphia looks with a interior without imagination, insisting on a 3 cabin version and central head and traditional chart table that results in a smallish saloon.











A boat with a big sailing potential that I don't like much that dificult to happen. Maybe because I liked a lot more the previous 11m design that Robelz had mentioned:





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