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Ker 50 C/R MKII

That's no joke. Some posts back I posted about a beautiful ker 50 performance cruiser that showed how fast it was on the Sydney-Hobart but Jason Ker has a brand new one for 2014. Well brand new maybe it is an exaggeration since they share the same hull, lifting keel and rudders but this one has a new cabin and is even nicer...and better for racing too since the cabin has less height.

No interior light? Plenty of it, almost all zenithal but also some port hulls with a view....and the interior is surprisingly nice.

The boat is made in China by McConaghy's and even made in China a top boat does not come cheap, it costs 1 million 350 thousand dollars, about the double of a XP50. Well, steroids are expensive

















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Traditional sailboats

Racing is racing but one thing is for sure: these babes need a lot of human ballast

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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Even if the Maxi 1200 is goodlooking and promising: So sad the dropped the plans for the Maxi 11 when Najad went into bankrupcy:

11m, target weight about 4,2-4,4t, 2,20 draft, perfect cockpit for racing and cruising...

The idea was to reduce weight consequently, e.g. by sofas in the saloon made of tubes covered with nets:






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Yacht-Entwicklung: Erste Skizzen der Maxi 11 - Yachten + Jollen*|*YACHT.DE
Maxi 11: Concept Sports Boat, Needs Your Input | boats.com Blog
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Even if the Maxi 1200 is good looking and promising: So sad the dropped the plans for the Maxi 11 when Najad went into bankrupcy:

11m, target weight about 4,2-4,4t, 2,20 draft, perfect cockpit for racing and cruising...

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Well, the new 1200 is light with 6.9T has a big B/D ratio and has a rigging very adapted to solo sailing (that's the part I like most) but the boat is a bit of a deception regarding the drawings I saw of the 11m. The designer is the same, the one that designs Maxi yachts for many years, Pelle Petterson, but the brief is different being the boat more performance cruising oriented and the hull is also different being this one a more classic one, less adapted to short crew sailing or racing.

But that is not what pisses me, what I don't like is the overall look, kind of a XP with Delphia looks with a interior without imagination, insisting on a 3 cabin version and central head and traditional chart table that results in a smallish saloon.











A boat with a big sailing potential that I don't like much that dificult to happen. Maybe because I liked a lot more the previous 11m design that Robelz had mentioned:





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Well, the new 1200 is light with 6.9T has a big B/D ratio and has a rigging very adapted to solo sailing (that's the part I like most) but the boat is a bit of a deception regarding the drawings I saw of the 11m. The designer is the same, the one that designs Maxi yachts for many years, Pelle Petterson, but the brief is different being the boat more performance cruising oriented and the hull is also different being this one a more classic one, less adapted to short crew sailing or racing.

But that is not what pisses me, what I don't like is the overall look, kind of a XP with Delphia looks with a interior without imagination, insisting on a 3 cabin version and central head and traditional chart table that results in a smallish saloon.

A boat with a big sailing potential that I don't like much that dificult to happen. Maybe because I liked a lot more the previous 11m design that Robelz had mentioned:

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Totally agree. The second boat would be the one I'd choose without hesitation. But apparently the marketing department didn't think they could sell enough of those to make it worthwhile, so they opted for the "safe" choice - build another performance cruiser that's pretty much like everyone else's performance cruiser, except for the interior choices - 3 cabins, central heads, trade-off between decent offshore galley vs. chart table, etc. Maybe the charter market somewhere will appreciate this, but not me.
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Maxi 1200

No, this is not a charter boat in fact it is a very fast performance cruiser (probably a expensive one, if he took Maxi prices as reference) with some oddities in what regards design and one of the more strange, for a performance boat that will certainly be also used for racing, is the absence of traveller

This boat will be a very fast one, a competitor with Xp yachts, Dehler, Salona, First, Arcona, Comet and Grand Soleil... and does not have a traveller?

I cannot see also a backstay adjuster but that can be skipped on the design at this phase, but not the traveler. Besides not having a traveler, the position of the winch regarding the main seems only work like that, I mean the line coming from the top of the cockpit table???? That means that table is not removable!!!!.....and that is just odd in what regards racing and even in what regards the use of the cockpit in a social way is just bad design comparing with all the others that have cockpit tables that "disappear" under the cockpit floor.

They have just been rescued from bankruptcy by Dehpia but I don't believe they will go far this way.
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Grand Soleil afloat again

By the way, other brand that was saved from bankrupt was Grand Soleil, this time by Bavaria...but Bavaria had given up and leave them again on bankruptcy. I have commented that in the summer with an Italian friend that is in the boat business. He smiled and said that Germans would be never able to work with Italians

Well, this time it was an Italian that saved Grand Soleil, Davide Trevisani. We also owns Sly yachts. We will see if an Italian will succeed in putting Grand Soleil under the sun again.
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By the way, other brand that was saved from bankrupt was Grand Soleil, this time by Bavaria...but Bavaria had given up and leave them again on bankruptcy. I have commented that in the summer with an Italian friend that is in the boat business. He smiled and said that Germans would be never able to work with Italians

Well, this time it was an Italian that saved Grand Soleil, Davide Trevisani. We also owns Sly yachts. We will see if an Italian will succeed in putting Grand Soleil under the sun again.
Yes, quite a pity about the fate of Grand Soleil, which built some beautiful boats that were quite competitive under IMS. Not sure how they fared under IRC, however. Always thought they looked expensive but were surprisingly affordable, for what you got. And perhaps that's why they couldn't stay in business.

Sly builds some very cool boats that are all but unknown in North America. I remember a few years ago they got some attention in Sailing Anarchy but pretty much ignored in the sailing press over here. Not surprisingly.
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