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Thanks for offerring to translate but I don't want to bother you with that.
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Maserati is not only a VOR70 but a tuned up one. Its performance should be a lot better than the usual VOR-performance.
I don't think you are right here. Yes Maserati is the old Ericsson 4, an older generation VOR70. Sure it is bettered regarding Ericsson 4 in what regards rigging but is not a match for none of the top VOR70 from the last generation, Groupama, Telefonica, Camper or Puma. Probably faster than the new Farr VOR 65 though

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If you read reviews from TdF sailors it is fast but crap to sail...
Yes, I have read them...in French and I would say that it is a mixed opinion regarding what they hoped for but remember that they are comparing the A34 with the previous boat, the Farr 30. I never heard about "crap to sail" but about not has fun as some expected.

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The boat potential, whatever the design, would be considerably limited by the max beam that was allowed on the design (that had to do with the boat being able to be transported on a normal trailer) and also because for not being expensive and accessible to many teams, it is not a Carbon boat but a fiberglass one (epoxy) and therefore relatively heavy for a top race boat.



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Maserati is 10% lighter, the keel is deeper and the center of gravity is further aft to enhance downwind performance. Plus the new rigg that brings some more sqm I think...
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Why would moving the center of gravity aft enhance downwind performance?

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Why would moving the center of gravity aft enhance downwind performance?
Should be easier to lift the bow...
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I have talked some posts back about what is probably the fastest (small) sailing boat with cruising potential, a trimaran. The offer in what regards cruising trimarans is very reduced probably because they are expensive to build an necessarily expensive for the interior space they offer.

There is a Finnish one that we did not yet talked about, the whisper 29. A good interior and certainly fast as all light trimarans even if this one offers a better and heavier cruising interior than the Corsair one that seemd to have about the same quality of the Dragonfly:

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OK, I'll go with that but it may have more to do with longitudinal center of flotation (LCF) than LCG.

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OK, I'll go with that but it may have more to do with longitudinal center of flotation (LCF) than LCG.
You are the NA, I am just a lawyer...

I just repated (and tried to translate) what Boris Herrmann (German navigator of Maserati) told...
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I don't know. I'm just speculating and because LCG and LCF are usually quite close together that it involves both centers. A boat will change fore and aft trim around trhe LCF. But it would be hard to move LCG aft without also moving LCF aft also. Not impossible but unusual.

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Update on the situation:

One more boat returning home, a Vand de stadt 34, Indaba with an injured crew member.

Regarding the others returning home or in trouble and the conditions:

"The majority of the fleet were still suffering rough sea conditions last night with poor visibility and a lot of rain this morning.
The current situation on the following yachts:

BILLE (Bavaria 54) – All crew of have now been transferred to SAS Islandwana. Two reported injured crew, the skipper with broken ribs and one crew member with lacerations..
Then the navy managed to clear all damaged rigging and have left the vessel to return to later. Once crew were secured, SAS Islandwana immediately left the area to go to assist yacht AVA.

AVA (Miura) – We have just had a report from SAS Islandwana that they have spotted yacht in very poor visibility. AVA sailing without power and communications but all well on board. SAS Islandwana now on their way to yacht Isla.

ISLA ( Schionning cruising cat ) reported late last night taking on water in the engine compartment and an electrical fire. They have had a container vessel Bosun, standing by for assistance since early this morning. All is under control and the yacht has decided to continue under sail to Saldanha. Smit Madura is on station with yacht Isla possibly to tow them back to port.

BLACK CAT (DiDi 38) – NSRI Station 3 are on route to tow her back to shore due to no steerage from a broken rudder.

.....

PEEKAY (Beneteau 51) safely in harbour at Yachtport.

DO DO (Fortuna 37 ), AVOCET (Beneteau 45), AVANTI (Vickers 41) and FTI Flyer (Charger 33) – are currently heading back to shore.

Tranquillo are only able to receive calls, otherwise all well.

....
Some trackers have been reported not to be moving but XtraLink are on top of each issue and most should be sorted by now."


We don't have any weather information trough the tracker. I will look at it later to see what they have ahead but for now all on that are racing seem to be doing well, including the smaller boat, a SF 3200 that sailed duo is on the front pack, behind the big boats.



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