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The didi 38/40cr is really a very interesting design... I have the study plans back home, because i was interested in the building method for a homebuild some years ago...
It really looks neat and should be fairly easy to build, if time would allow me so beside my job... *puke*
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Race; Cape 2 Rio

But this is a race too and while many cruising boats are having problems the racing boats and performance cruisers are way ahead. The first is without any Surprise Maserati, a VOR 70, the second, at some distance is Scarlet Runner, an interesting performance cruiser (Reichel&Pugh designed), like a kind of TP 52 with a cruising interior, followed by an old Open 60. Not very far a 40class racer that is being double handed.

The boat that is next (and almost at the on pair with the 40class racer) is an incredible one, I mean it is not a racer designed for transats and even if it is an offshore boat is designed for regattas on more coastal conditions, in fact it was specifically designed for the Tour the France and it is showing that it could not only take the conditions that made much bigger cruisers went for shelter as it is going like a rocket: The Archambault M34, designed few years ago by Joubert-Nivelt-Mercier. This racer (Volvo add on the spi):



Also close from the class 40 an incredibly well sailed Simonis 35, a fast performance cruiser designed by Simonis or maybe not because contrary to the entry list they give it on the tracker has being a Nose be 38, a Lavranos designed fast cat?

Two other cats are not far away, both Leopard.

This video taken yesterday on board Maserati show the conditions they have taken. Not very impressive aboard a VOR 70, but these boats are very seaworthy (and big).

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But this is a race too and while many cruising boats are having problems the racing boats and performance cruisers are way ahead. The first is without any Surprise Maserati, a VOR 70, the second, at some distance is Scarlet Runner, an interesting performance cruiser (Reichel&Pugh designed), like a kind of TP 52 with a cruising interior, followed by an old Open 60. Not very far a 40class racer that is being double handed.
Maserati is not only a VOR70 but a tuned up one. Its performance should be a lot better than the usual VOR-performance.
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I mean it is not a racer designed for transats and even if it is an offshore boat is designed for regattas on more coastal conditions, in fact it was specifically designed for the Tour the France and it is showing that it could not only take the conditions that made much bigger cruisers went for shelter as it is going like a rocket: The Archambault M34, designed few years ago by Joubert-Nivelt-Mercier. This racer (Volvo add on the spi):

If you read reviews from TdF sailors it is fast but crap to sail...
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This video taken yesterday on board Maserati show the conditions they have taken. Not very impressive aboard a VOR 70, but these boats are very seaworthy (and big).

Maserati was so fast it was ahead of the worst weather. They had 40kn but never 60 as its followers had...
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Dudley is a good man. He has stayed at my house with his family. I was the one who gave him the knickname "Didi".
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Maserati is not only a VOR70 but a tuned up one. Its performance should be a lot better than the usual VOR-performance.
I don't think you are right here. Yes Maserati is the old Ericsson 4, an older generation VOR70. Sure it is bettered regarding Ericsson 4 in what regards rigging but is not a match for none of the top VOR70 from the last generation, Groupama, Telefonica, Camper or Puma. Probably faster than the new Farr VOR 65 though

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If you read reviews from TdF sailors it is fast but crap to sail...
Yes, I have read them...in French and I would say that it is a mixed opinion regarding what they hoped for but remember that they are comparing the A34 with the previous boat, the Farr 30. I never heard about "crap to sail" but about not has fun as some expected.

Beaucoup d?attentes, toujours en transition - Tour de France à la voile | skippers.tv: Voiles, Régates, Croisières, Vidéos et Actualités.

The boat potential, whatever the design, would be considerably limited by the max beam that was allowed on the design (that had to do with the boat being able to be transported on a normal trailer) and also because for not being expensive and accessible to many teams, it is not a Carbon boat but a fiberglass one (epoxy) and therefore relatively heavy for a top race boat.



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Maserati is 10% lighter, the keel is deeper and the center of gravity is further aft to enhance downwind performance. Plus the new rigg that brings some more sqm I think...
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Why would moving the center of gravity aft enhance downwind performance?
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Trimaran Whisper 29

I have talked some posts back about what is probably the fastest (small) sailing boat with cruising potential, a trimaran. The offer in what regards cruising trimarans is very reduced probably because they are expensive to build an necessarily expensive for the interior space they offer.

There is a Finnish one that we did not yet talked about, the whisper 29. A good interior and certainly fast as all light trimarans even if this one offers a better and heavier cruising interior than the Corsair one that seemd to have about the same quality of the Dragonfly:

Trimaraani on vakaa purjevene, retkivene ja nopea kilpavene yhdessä. Tuotekehityksen avaintavoitteena mahdollisuudet tulevaisuuden taloudelliseen veneilyyn EU:ssa ja Suomessa

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