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Hugh welbourn and DSS

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Hi all,

Have not posted for long time, however have been following the thread. Browsing the web I found out the Infiniti yacht brand (thought it was brand bane only for fast luxurious cars). Though not cars, they have patented the DSS (Dynamic Stability System) representing use of additional foils. They seem to be interesting though on the hi-end.

I thought Paulo and all others would find such boats intriguing. I did not find, however, their basic parameters although they seem to be very light and able to carry a lot of sail (like the multihulls).

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Hi Rumen, Glad to know that you still follow this thread

Yes it it was posted long ago but it is a nice one:



The creator of DSS, Hugh welbourn is associated with Infiniti yachts, that are designed also by him. I hope that after the victory of the Wild Oats and the validity of the DSS system proved in racing, we will see finally that 100ft having an order that allow it to see the light of the day.

Even out of DSS system Hugh welbourn had proved himself as designer on the racing field with the design of the DK 46 (2002), a great performance cruiser with a long list of victories. The boat is also sometime given as a Mills design?? maybe Hugh Welbourn worked for mills at the time?



He also designed the JK 50 that would be the first true cruiser with a DSS system. They start yo build the boat but it was sold before it was finished and I don't think it is on the water yet. A very nice cruiser though.









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Re: Interesting Sailboats

true - the JK looks really nice...
i like the full height doors (its no longer a companionway, isn't it) into the saloon...

on another note from their website:
"NEWS FLASH - Bare hull and deck
fully faired with Engine and machinery
installed AVAILABLE NOW
email james@jkyachts.com for more info"

JKyachts builders of the JK50DSS - JK yachts
are they really selling a bare hull to anyone for finishing the boat in his backyard or some other place?
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Look at the end of the page: Lots of photos.

JK Yachts JK 50 Unfinished Project em Saône-et-Loire | Veleiros usados 77092

I believe the money finished, they did not have an order or had one but someone had given up and they had to sell the boat unfinished.

I believe it is already sold since the add is deactivated.


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Fantastic story: mini racers are very strong boats!!!

I have posted recently a video of a mini boat being salvaged after being thrown to a beach, well, I have another rescue story, one even more unbelievable, regarding this Pogo and Federico Fornaro:




He was doing the last Transat, everything went fine till only 300NM from the finish where he broke both rudders and have to be rescued leaving the boat. Later he tried to find the boat on the islands.... Here is his incredible story, translated from Italian:





Federico Fornaro , an Italian skipper (from Roma) saw his dream to finish the last mini transat end at only 300 miles from Guadeloupe.

The failure of both rudders had forced him to abandon his Mini racer, Jolie Rouge, to be rescued by the Imaginaire, one of the six support boats that followed the race.

For a sailor, losing his boat, it's like losing a loved one . Federico once arrived on land forget the disappointment for not having made it and started ...the search of his beloved 6.50 racer.

This is the story:

... After 30 days at sea , a few miles from the finish, with damages on the rudders the Roman navigator is on trouble.... ""I felt the tiller blocked, the steel support broke and the left rudder was slamming against the transom risking to open a breach in the hull".

Frederick disassemble the damaged blade and continues to navigate with a rudder alone, hoping not to over stress it. " Vain hope: the blade of the right rudder cannot stand alone and on the night the steel support broke in a way that could not be repaired. The boat was uncontrollable....I can not fight anymore ... help arrives and... I've abandoned my girlfriend , I've sacrificed it so I can save myself ... I still watch the waves roll Jolie and it breaks my heart.

...But his boat is his traveling companion. For him it has a soul that is invisible to the eyes of others and abandoning it in the middle of the sea is like leaving a friend drown in the waves.

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The eyes of Frederick , on arrival in Guadeloupe, express a tired deep sadness but on the middle of that anguish , you can see a shimmer , a little hope of finding Jolie Rouge and save her from the cruel fate of finding eternal rest in the bottom of the ocean or in the clutches of sharp rocks.

... "I left the satellite locator working and it has continued to emit a GPS signal , and so every day I received the coordinates of the drifting boat" . Thus began a treasure hunt : "The boat pushed by winds of South- East advancing at the speed of 1K with a route that took over the West Indies. I went to the island of Saint Martin that lying to the North seemed to be the best starting point to begin a search . "

Madness ? Tenacity ? Romance ? Maybe a little of all drove Frederick. "The wind increased to 30 knots forming a beautiful sea. I am struggling to find a boat available to leave for what would be a great amount of upwind sailing.

Then I remember Manu, a Brittany sailor who sails the Atlantic avoiding as much as possible land. He offers me help and is available to sail away. ... two great sailors in search of adventures, begin the search for the small sailboat . " It is now a race against time, the boat could either be intercepted by some local fisherman or worse, crashing on a reef in Barbuda."

After a night of navigation , at dawn, the first good news: " Near the north-east coast of the island we see a tree without sails that appear and disappear on the waves that break on the reefs: Jolie Rouge seems to have stopped just before the breakers. "

But it's too dangerous to approach Manu's boat , we need to find fishermen for helping with the rescue. " I went ashore and found a village with a few low houses, a small bar and an immigration office where we are forced to fill a lot of forms, piles of paper and stamps. ....

" A small group of local fishermen agrees to take us out with their motor boat , but not before putting gasoline, which means losing more hours to go to fill the tanks on the other side of the island ." ..." we saw first the inclined mast and then the boat lying on its side on the reef. As if that were not bad enough , other men on a small boat were looting the boat. Between shouts and curses I jumped to my boat and they, in minority give up quickly , but not before stilling the generator the, GPS, various equipment .

The boat had small fractures, but it has a hard "skin" and we manage to tow it to Saint Martin were it was put on the hard. It is saved!!!

Now I can go back to Rome, glad to be able to change the ending of this story. But is this really an end?


L?incredibile storia di Federico Fornaro e del suo Jolie Rouge, ritrovato dopo due settimane! | Giornale della Vela - notizie di vela - regate - crociera


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Indigo yachts is one of the small French shipyards that makes very interesting boats at a fair price. We have talked already about the Kerkena 6.1 and 7.6, small sportive coastal cruising monohulls, but Indigo yacht was already well known before for their interesting sportive cruising coastal catamarans.

... now they propose the Aventura 43, an Offshore cat designed by Defline one of the most talented young French NAs.

The boat is not only very interesting, offering good sailing performances with a great interior space as it is also proposed at a good price for a non mass produced customized cat: 295 000€
























NA : Martin DEFLINE

LH : 13.20 m
Beam : 7.00 m
Light weight : 8300 Kg
Weight at Max load : 12400 Kg
Draft : 0.40 m
upwind sail: 99.3 m2
Spi Asy : 117.2 m2
Water : 600 L
Fuel : 561 L

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Well, the boat is on the water.






The movies are bad and the wind does not help:



What happened to the keels?

I don't like the interior design even if the boat seems to have lots of space and a good interior:



Aventura Catamarans : Constructions Composites & Chantier Naval


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The Australians are great sailors but if we took this video as an example, also mad sailors. Who would think of racing on these conditions? Olé!!!!



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Directly from the Mini to the VOR.

Justine Mettraux (27) joins the girls on the VOR SCA.

The ones that followed with us the last mini Transat know well Justine and her big talent. She finished 2th on the series, but most of all, very close to the overall leaders and well ahead of most protos. A quite incredible race that seem to have not staid unnoticed.

These ladies under the leadership of Samantha (Sam Davies) risk to be quite a problem for men's teams

They have been training hard on their pink boat:



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The Australians are great sailors but if we took this video as an example, also mad sailors. Who would think of racing on these conditions? Olé!!!!
Granted!
have you ever seen the aussies or kiwis compete in their 12ft skiffs?
those little boats are so massively overcanvased, they are rather "flown" than actually "sailed"...
i know that there are better videos out there but couldn't find one in a hurry:

damn it - i cannot make that iframe work...
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New Flagship for Dehler: Dehler 46

a very sleek Judel / Vrolijk design:





Since Dehler passed to be controlled by Hanse, and after some design and quality issues (interior) that seem to have resolved on the 38, only good things have come from Dehler, including the price of the boats. This one is announced for 261 000 euros including German VAT and that seems amazing.

The boat looks good and the basic dimensions too:


Design............... Judel / Vrolijk & Co
Hull length......... 13,95 m
Total length....... 14.40 m
Waterline length.. 12,90 m
Beam .................4.35 m
Weight.............. 10.7 t
Ballast / ratio...... 3.5 t/33%
Draft................. 1.85/2.25/2.70 m
Engine............... 39 kW/53 hp


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Re: Mad sailing

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The Australians are great sailors but if we took this video as an example, also mad sailors. Who would think of racing on these conditions? Olé!!!!

Notice how, in typical Australian fashion, the results at the end of the video list the crews with the men's names first. Does this mean the men are the skippers in each case? Perhaps. But I doubt it.

On a less serious note, racing in these kinds of conditions is what makes these among the best sailors in the world. It is an ISAF-level national event, after all, and these are Olympic class boats. Even though the wind is definitely up, the sea conditions are pretty manageable, with just the short chop and no big waves or confused seas.

I have often heard it said that European sailors are much more likely to go out in marginal conditions - i.e. big breeze - than their American counterparts. From my own experience I don't think this is necessarily the case, but that was mostly on San Francisco Bay, where if you don't like big breeze you wouldn't be able to sail very often.

But definitely the Aussies and Kiwis are not intimidated by big breeze.

We deal in lead, friend.
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