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rather the contrary - i appreciate any correction because it allows me to learn...

so - a plane lands plain in the plains according to the plan but if a plane planes planned on plain water, is it still just a plain plane?
Couldn't have put it more plainly, Captain!
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Very nice boat and congratulations to Marc-Oliver von Ahlen for a great design...and to the public that chose a very nice boat.

SQ25 | Yachtdesign v. Ahlen

Here are the dimensions:

LOA 7.50 m (standard)
LOA 7,80 m (twin rudder)
Hull length 7.50 m
Lwl: 6.74 m
Beam 2.49 m
Air draft 11.40 m
Fixed keel standard 1.30 m
Fixed keel shallow 1.10 m
Swing keel 0.70 m-1, 80 m
Sail area 32.7 square meters (Standard rig)
Light Displacement 1600 kg

and the two versions, the standard and the fast one:

Regarding the designer he has experience in small fast boats, he is the one that designed the Sailart 22, one of the boats nominated for this year European boat of the year contest, this boat:

Kunst am Boot: Sailart 22 - Yacht TV - Segel Videos von Europas größtem Yacht Magazin

Also the one that designed the Sirius 35, one of the boats that was posted on the first posts of this thread.
Wow! Very nice indeed. This could very well factor into my considerations, particularly the option with the enclosed marine head / shower (for certain family members for whom that is the most important feature of any sailboat).

That extra 0.9M of length and corresponding interior volume would make for a more comfortable experience in any kind of serious breeze or sea state, compared to the Elan 210. I'm a big fan of the swing keel option, versus the lift keel (which I'm okay with, just prefer the former). Looking forward to seeing the finished product and pricing options.

Thanks very much for sharing this surprising (and very interesting, of course) little boat.
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Norbert Sedlacek and Fipofix on their way again!

Norbert Sedlacek has departed from Gijon in "Fipofix" for another singlehanded Atlantic crossing attempt. You may recall that his initial attempt, last Fall, was cut short by electrical problems and a collision with an unidentified floating object, which damaged his rudder.

He initially set off yesterday but encountered problems with autopilot controller that forced a return to Gijon for repairs. But now he is on his way and, if everything goes smoothly, will arrive in New York City in a few weeks.

I am really hoping he succeeds and will do my best to go down and visit the boat when he arrives.





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Faurby 460E

Great news: Faurby is making a big one.

I confess that I have an irrational love for Faubry: Their boats are traditional, narrow and with one of the best finish on the market, a true work of art. Besides they are a family business and are very nice. I say Irrational because the design is good but nor really modern and the boats even if fast are not a match for the Luffe.

I believe that ended, I mean not being a match and not being contemporary. For the new one instead of being designed in the house, the design is from Lars. T. Olsen that we know for designing the HP 1030, a very fast boat. The 460E design seems sensational. Sure it will have a more traditional look than other performance cruisers but this time it is really only the look. This is the kind of traditional boat I like

Look at the dimensions:

Length................14.70 m
Hull length...........13,95 m
LWL....................12,35 m
Beam................... 3.90 m
Draft / alternative...2,25 m / 2,00, 2,70 m
Displacement..........8,5 t
Ballast...................3,6 t
MainSail................61 sqm
Sail area Jib...........48 sqm
Gennaker..............180 sqm
Motor 39 kW/53 hp

And look at the hull:



The boat comes with a rigging for solo sailing as you can see above.





Ok, the deawings are 2D and it will not look as good as 3D drawings but I know that this boat is beautiful.

The problem with narrow boats is that they are a lot more expensive, they have a lot less interior space and you need a bigger boat that it ends up having about the same weight, needing the same sail area, being faster....but much more expensive in maintenance and marinas. Money aside, this is probably the kind of boat that I would not mind to change by my own...but unless you have a lot of it money counts a lot.

Ok, I would like a more vertical bow and an open transom. The open transom I am sure it would not be a problem (they offer that possibility on the other boats) regarding the bow that is not obviously possible...but anyway who wants a perfect boat

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...... Maybe I did not have understood correctly Classic 30 question. I thought he was talking about the boat he posted.

Classic30, for more information search on the thread search engine for David Raison and Bathtube bow.
Paulo, it seems to me that you understood (and answered) my question correctly. ..but thanks for the search tips. I will look those up.

Keep going with your excellent thread.. .
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Re: Norbert Sedlacek and Fipofix on their way again!

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Norbert Sedlacek has departed from Gijon in "Fipofix" for another singlehanded Atlantic crossing attempt. You may recall that his initial attempt, last Fall, was cut short by electrical problems and a collision with an unidentified floating object, which damaged his rudder.

He initially set off yesterday but encountered problems with autopilot controller that forced a return to Gijon for repairs. But now he is on his way and, if everything goes smoothly, will arrive in New York City in a few weeks.

I am really hoping he succeeds and will do my best to go down and visit the boat when he arrives.
yeah - all the best to harald and his little boat!
new york - i thought he is crossing to st. augustine, florida?
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yeah - all the best to harald and his little boat!
new york - i thought he is crossing to st. augustine, florida?
Damn! Must have changed his plan. And I don't blame him. If I crossed the Atlantic in a boat that small I would not want to arrive in New York City in winter. Unfortunately, I don't have the option of flying down to Florida to greet him.
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Sydney-Hobart 2013 and Radford 12

The Hobart of the old designed boats is gonna away. Today almost all boats are contemporary designs, racing boats and performance cruisers. The Radford 12 is no exception, being a design of Graham Radford that was part of the crew. We can see on this nice movie that they went fast....and even so they only made 72 out of the 84 that finished the race. The Level towards performance in what regards the end of the fleet had grow substantially on the last years.

Copernicus - Sydney Hobart 2013 from Greg Wilkins on Vimeo.



The Radford 12 is a nice design with the particularity of being an aluminium boat:



Sail-World.com : Copernicus is coming: Radford Yachts

RADFORD YACHT DESIGN - Radford 12m - Cruiser/Racer

Radford is an Australian NA with many stock plans on the market, particularly aluminium voyage boats:

RADFORD YACHT DESIGN Home Page

He has also on his site a nice page about boat stability:

RADFORD YACHT DESIGN - Stability Discussion

and the fact that he participates as crew on his designs in tough races like this one contradicts the naysayers that insist that the NA that design this type of fast boats for offshore conditions don't really know what they are doing since they never sail their designs on this conditions. I know, it does not make sense but I am tired to hear things like that on this site

This Hobart was a tough one, specially for the boats on the tail of the race, like this Radford that have made it to the finish with fling colors...with the designer crewing it.
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Re: Norbert Sedlacek and Fipofix on their way again!

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Norbert Sedlacek has departed from Gijon in "Fipofix" for another singlehanded Atlantic crossing attempt. You may recall that his initial attempt, last Fall, was cut short by electrical problems and a collision with an unidentified floating object, which damaged his rudder.
It is Harald, Norbert's son!

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