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Lemonchois capsized with "Prince de Bretagne" so Joyon will keep his record... Meanwhile Coville parks in the doldrums and is 400 miles behind the record.
"On Monday afternoon, at precisely 3:57pm, Lionel Lemonchois manually triggered the distress beacon of his 80-foot maxi trimaran Prince de Bretagne.

He had started his 11th day at sea, trying to break the Mauricienne record, from Port-Louis in Brittany to Port-Louis, the capital of Mauritius. When the beacon was triggered the trimaran was approximately 800 miles off the Brazilian coast, at the latitude of Rio de Janeiro, sailing under a southeasterly breeze between 16 and 18 knots.

Following the activation of the emergency beacon, the Prince de Bretagne shore crew in France was unable to get in contact with Lemonchois. However, early in the evening, the French sailor called his team to inform them that the trimaran had capsized. He was sound and safe inside the boat’s central hull but was forced to to cut her rigging."


Prince de Bretagne trimaran capsized; Lionel Lemonchois safe inside central hull | VSail.info

It scares the hell out of me to think how a solo sailor can not only dominate a monster like that 80ft trimaran as well as punch it to a record. It seems that goes not without risks. I know that this frontier land, pushing the limits to sail bigger and faster as a huge positive reflex on the development of systems that make sail and boat control easier, systems that have an almost direct application on cruising boats but I wonder till where they will go?



I suspect that it was not the record itself that led him to push too much but the successive 24 hours records from Armel on Banque Populaire. Probably he was trying for the 24 hours solo absolute record and that is really going on the limit...and with a monster like that is playing at Russian roulette. The wind was only 18k so he should wave full sails when the boat capsized. That can also indicate a technical failure or problem with the boat.

A French support team is organizing a towing operation from Brasil. It is going to take time but Lemonchois, except for an hurt hand, is safe is in the central hull and has plenty of food and water.

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But the class never really took off and the races are mostly IRC races or races with the minis. Don't know why the class never picked up ...
if this is the official site, there is no wonder that it never picked up...
a .com domain and only available in french?
come on - they cannot be serious or do the french really still think, that french is an international language everybody HAS to speak?
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Hi all,
What is your opinion of these rectangular portholes in the hull (I refer to the Sly 43 video). They look trendy from outside but do they not compromise hull stiffness and thickness? Are they not susceptible to outside damage from docks or other boat hulls despite fenders. I have not been inside such a boat but IMHO there is not much gain in light from such portholes near the water or may be someone will enjoy looking the water from the leeward side.
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OK, so this isn't your typical daysailer but I was really taken with some of the ideas in this boat. Now all I need is a winning lottery ticket...

Sizzler: Flush-Deck Speedster

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It looks very well, not very different in spirit from some Italian big daysailers an built for the same purpose: the simple pleasure of sailing. Being designed by a Portuguese Na, I am pretty sure it sails well. Seriously, Tony Castro is a great NA and I am sure the boat is not only beautiful as it is very fast.

I like everything except the ridiculous amount of space taken by the automatic devices to make the boat button sailing. The boats has not obviously the space for those systems that require a bigger yacht, but as the client as always reason and since it was what he wanted. Even so it is a crime regarding that beautiful interior:













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if this is the official site, there is no wonder that it never picked up...
a .com domain and only available in french?
come on - they cannot be serious or do the french really still think, that french is an international language everybody HAS to speak?
Yes, the French are a bit like that. Austrians too. I remember that on the Belvedere museum, one of the best in the world and in a beautiful setting, 10 years ago they had only information about the paintings and ark work in German.

Now at least on the site they have it in English too. I hope they have already information in English near the paintings even if I doubt it, at least looking at the paintings on the site photo I can only see nearby information on one language: German.

Anyway to all that visit Vienna don't miss it. It is a gem.

Museum und Schloss Belvedere Österreich | Museum und Schloss Belvedere Österreich

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What is your opinion of these rectangular portholes in the hull (I refer to the Sly 43 video). They look trendy from outside but do they not compromise hull stiffness and thickness? Are they not susceptible to outside damage from docks or other boat hulls despite fenders. I have not been inside such a boat but IMHO there is not much gain in light from such portholes near the water or may be someone will enjoy looking the water from the leeward side.
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Yes the gain in virtual space and scenery, not to mention light is huge. They call them inserts and they are not just a piece of plastic but normally a block with air inside. They have more to do with airplane "widows" than anything else. They started to be used in fast motorboats (much bigger than in sailboats) and the stress a hull of a fast motorboat can take is bigger than the one of a sailboat.

Today even some cruiser racers, more used to race than cruise use them. I don't know how they work regarding hull strength but obviously they can be used if the the hull is already designed to include them without great structural disadvantage otherwise very fast performance boats like the Sly 43, or performance cruisers used for racing would not be using them.

I am absolutely sure that the NA that design those boats know what they are doing, since almost all boats are using them and many of them are designed by some of the best NA in the world.

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Thanks Paulo!
I believe they are very well engineered (since I have seen them on more expensive brands) and may be not less stiffer than the fibreglass hull that would not make any difference in the event of an impact with something stiffer than both of them. If they are scratched from outside unlike fibreglass it would not be possible to repair those inserts. If side docked you need to adjust fenders not to cover and potentially scratch them. But I am also sure that those inserts will add additional cost without many light benefits and you need to add blinders from inside.

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I like everything except the ridiculous amount of space taken by the automatic devices to make the boat button sailing. The boats has not obviously the space for those systems that require a bigger yacht, but as the client as always reason and since it was what he wanted. Even so it is a crime regarding that beautiful interior:
Paulo I think the whole idea was to show off the polished and detailed hydraulics the way a hot rod shows off its engine.

Still I agree it's wasted space. It would have been straightforward to design a master stateroom with a removable interior around the hydraulics.

I'm taken with the look of the boat, that she's specifically designed to be singlehanded easily, and that she's designed to be so quick and responsive under sail. The design brief was for a 60' laser!

Would love to get some time aboard her.

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