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if this is the official site, there is no wonder that it never picked up...
a .com domain and only available in french?
come on - they cannot be serious or do the french really still think, that french is an international language everybody HAS to speak?
Yes, the French are a bit like that. Austrians too. I remember that on the Belvedere museum, one of the best in the world and in a beautiful setting, 10 years ago they had only information about the paintings and ark work in German.

Now at least on the site they have it in English too. I hope they have already information in English near the paintings even if I doubt it, at least looking at the paintings on the site photo I can only see nearby information on one language: German.

Anyway to all that visit Vienna don't miss it. It is a gem.

Museum und Schloss Belvedere Österreich | Museum und Schloss Belvedere Österreich

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What is your opinion of these rectangular portholes in the hull (I refer to the Sly 43 video). They look trendy from outside but do they not compromise hull stiffness and thickness? Are they not susceptible to outside damage from docks or other boat hulls despite fenders. I have not been inside such a boat but IMHO there is not much gain in light from such portholes near the water or may be someone will enjoy looking the water from the leeward side.
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Yes the gain in virtual space and scenery, not to mention light is huge. They call them inserts and they are not just a piece of plastic but normally a block with air inside. They have more to do with airplane "widows" than anything else. They started to be used in fast motorboats (much bigger than in sailboats) and the stress a hull of a fast motorboat can take is bigger than the one of a sailboat.

Today even some cruiser racers, more used to race than cruise use them. I don't know how they work regarding hull strength but obviously they can be used if the the hull is already designed to include them without great structural disadvantage otherwise very fast performance boats like the Sly 43, or performance cruisers used for racing would not be using them.

I am absolutely sure that the NA that design those boats know what they are doing, since almost all boats are using them and many of them are designed by some of the best NA in the world.

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Thanks Paulo!
I believe they are very well engineered (since I have seen them on more expensive brands) and may be not less stiffer than the fibreglass hull that would not make any difference in the event of an impact with something stiffer than both of them. If they are scratched from outside unlike fibreglass it would not be possible to repair those inserts. If side docked you need to adjust fenders not to cover and potentially scratch them. But I am also sure that those inserts will add additional cost without many light benefits and you need to add blinders from inside.

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I like everything except the ridiculous amount of space taken by the automatic devices to make the boat button sailing. The boats has not obviously the space for those systems that require a bigger yacht, but as the client as always reason and since it was what he wanted. Even so it is a crime regarding that beautiful interior:
Paulo I think the whole idea was to show off the polished and detailed hydraulics the way a hot rod shows off its engine.

Still I agree it's wasted space. It would have been straightforward to design a master stateroom with a removable interior around the hydraulics.

I'm taken with the look of the boat, that she's specifically designed to be singlehanded easily, and that she's designed to be so quick and responsive under sail. The design brief was for a 60' laser!

Would love to get some time aboard her.

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Paulo I think the whole idea was to show off the polished and detailed hydraulics the way a hot rod shows off its engine.

Still I agree it's wasted space. It would have been straightforward to design a master stateroom with a removable interior around the hydraulics.

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And there are no inserts in the hull to distract you from the nice view inside!

P.S. JimMcGee, I liked very much that quotation from "The sea and the wind that blows".

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52 Super series Key West regatta

Great sailing in Key west. These series lost a lot regarding the previous Audi Med cup. Worst coverage, less teams, less countries, less TV exposure, less money and less interest in what regards the secondary races (40 series) that where many times so spectacular as the main races.

Even so the last day with lots of wind provided great sailing:





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Great sailing in Key west. These series lost a lot regarding the previous Audi Med cup. Worst coverage, less teams, less countries, less TV exposure, less money and less interest in what regards the secondary races (40 series) that where many times so spectacular as the main races.

Even so the last day with lots of wind provided great sailing:
It's an amazing this video. I am not sure whether I got properly what happened so correct me if I am wrong since I have no idea about racing. The guys were doing fine down wind with the gennaker, the helmsman doing the steering and the main sheet traveller, the next two guys forward were handling the gennaker sheet and the forth guy in the front was navigating and may be in charge of the vang sheet. At one point they sheeted hard on the wind in order to avoid a boat in trouble and this turned to a broach where they heeled excessively, sunk the leeward rail and blew the gennaker in the water. It took wuite a time to resume trim but not sure whether everything was finally OK. Do I miss something?
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i hope you have not mentioned it, but Vismaramarine.it have some very nice boats - like this 47 fast cruiser... and it is relatively light too with only 10.25 t...
V47 Fast Cruiser

although the interior looks a little sterile to me...

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Planing vs. Displacement mode.

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It's an amazing this video. I am not sure whether I got properly what happened so correct me if I am wrong since I have no idea about racing. The guys were doing fine down wind with the gennaker, the helmsman doing the steering and the main sheet traveller, the next two guys forward were handling the gennaker sheet and the forth guy in the front was navigating and may be in charge of the vang sheet. At one point they sheeted hard on the wind in order to avoid a boat in trouble and this turned to a broach where they heeled excessively, sunk the leeward rail and blew the gennaker in the water. It took wuite a time to resume trim but not sure whether everything was finally OK. Do I miss something?
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I missed the end where a guy jibed to leeward which probably made them sail to high in a gust... then shrimping
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