I think the Jeanneau 409 is your kind of boat. It is no Deck sallon but the outside view from the saloon through double hull ports is really good. You don't fell like in a basement
Even before I have read the jury comments I had already reached the conclusion (by reading some boat tests) that, even if I find the interior gorgeous, this was not my kind of boat, and I will try to tell you why.
So lets see what the jury said about this boat and let me join all opinions, and make a separation between positive and negative comments:
This Philippe Briand designed cruiser has many modern design features such as plumb ends, hull chines, an aft cockpit and twin wheels, but it is her accommodation that says more about what really lies at the heart of her design.
Her modest and elegantly fitted teak or oak interior is the first thing to grab your attention. While subtle in colour, the horizontal grain might not be a major feature, but it sets the scene for a boat that challenges the norm. ....
The message is clear, Jeanneau are heading back to their roots with a good looking, solidly built boat that has an eye on the future as well.
... Just in front of each of the wheels lies a Harken 50.2 self tailing winch onto which the mainsheet and genoa sheets are led ensuring the primary controls are close to hand for the helmsman, while also allowing the crew can operate them easily as well.
...At a starting price of €128,740 she is very good value for money for a well built boat that has looks that will last.
The 409 does not only have a very elegant appearance. She also features clever details on and below decks. The option of different headsails is a big plus. And the accomodation is both warm and roomy - something that doesn't always go together well. In fact, even though she is fairly priced she feels rather rich and very comfortable.
The more complete boat of the category, she looks more luxurious and refined than her class. She seems to be back to the Jeanneau best times, when they were realized in medium quality and far from cusins Beneteau.
+ very well designed
+ good deck solutions, many details well resolved
+ functional interior layouts
+ well done interior finishing, quality materials
+ good value for money
Those guys from Jeanneau are very clever : you can hardly beat them in term of value for money. You have lots and lots of space, the boat is rather good under sail and you feel you are on a special boat. Still, it is a mass production boat and the price is very good but you really enjoy living aboard and nothing reminds you of anything « low price ». Well done.
You feel the experience of the yard, when you are sailing the boat: good upwind performance and comfortable trim options, when you have choosen the electric sheetwinshes. Other fine features:
- Variable sailplan: especially the possibility to use three different foresails
- Ambiance under deck: The interior is made with brain and charm; well done woodwork with good working fittings; multifunctional navigation place and salon table.
I you want a boats to give good vibrations, Sun Odyssey 409 is a splendid example. It combines trendright chines, big beam aft with a coachroof ending in "shoulders". If EYOTY was a beautycontest, 409 would have won it too.
Besides having Philippe Briand onboard again, Jeannau has included some new neat features for relaxed sailing, like selftacking jib, low integrated jibtrack on the coachroof, sheets led under a deckcover to electric winches in the cockpit, This demonstrates fresh thinking.
Inside Sun Odyssey 409 collects even more points with inviting space, clever layout with one or two aftcabins and toilets, and a genious charttable doubling as bar.
Finishwise the 409 feels de luxe, with leatherhandles, leathercovered charttable, rounded fronts.
Under sail the boat balances a family´s needs, enough sailarea for good speed in light air and solid ruddergrip with lots of control in high winds. Even more familyplus is proper ballastratio for comfortable ride when wind picks up.
Overall Sun Odyssey 409 represents a new level on family cruising in design, sailing, inside volume, finish and value for money.
Better by design: Jeanneau have managed to make an affordable family cruiser witch looks luxurious, but not on the price tag. ...
Jeanneau has the skill to keep things simple and functional. The 409 feels like a bigger boat especially down below.
...And as opposed to the Xc where you get a lot of boat for a lot of money the Jeanneau gives just a lot of boat for the money.
Where the layout struggles a little is in the friction of the sheet systems and in winches that are a bit underpowered fro the task.
A bit stiff on the helm, maybe. And with a bit too much friction in the rope arrangement that leads all aft.
- not fast or funny under sail, heavy at the helm.
You could argue that it feels a bit heavy and numb on the wheel but never the less I'm quite certain that Jeanneau targets their audience close to spot on.
No, I have no doubt that this is a great boat and that many sailors would not find the negative points that were refereed. Fact is that not all of the Juries refereed those negative points, but it is also true that several had found them.
Probably you would be the kind of sailor that would find boat's sailing performance perfect, but I know that I would find all the negative points that some testers have found and that those are more important for me than the outstanding boat interior.
I know that because I intentionally chartered last year a boat that has been considered (by the same testers) as a must in what regards sailing potential among cruiser boats, the Dufour 425 and I found it a very good cruising boat, but "numb" at the wheel and not particularly fast or exiting to sail. I don't want a boat like that...and I am sure, for the same reasons, that the Jeanneau 409 is not the boat for me, even if it will be the perfect boat for many sailors.
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