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Yes, your holyness. Once again you are so right.
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First race with the new SF 3600, new A35 and new JPK 10.80:

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A35

I think these pics are from the new A35. At least the 2 pictures from the trade fair are.
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A35

I think these pics are from the new A35. At least the 2 pictures from the trade fair are.
Yes, they are. There are two movies that show the boat. The interiors looked great before I saw those of the new JPK 10.80. Now they just look good for the type of boat





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The A35's hull looks better to me, but I will never buy a boat by this criteria...
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Sunfast 3600 / JPK 10.80

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First race with the new SF 3600, new A35 and new JPK 10.80:

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That's an incredibly good result for the JPK that not only looks to have a much heavier (and good) interior as they had very little time for fine tuning the boat and rig.

The guys that are at the wheel of the two boats are also very interesting:

On the Sunfast Luc Gellusseau an old timer than knows one or two things about sailing, have been the skipper of the French american's cup boat (monohulls) and 8 times world champion (in different boats), Admiral's Cup winner in 1991 and raced 5 times the America's cup.

On the JPK another old timer, the builder himself, JP Kelbert with mostly a past as solo sailor but also not a stranger to regatta sailing.

It is very significant that both boats have beaten all competition, a strong one: 4 A35 a JPK 110 and a Mat 10.10.

I had a better look at the different races with special incidence on the real times:

1st race:

SUN FAST 3600...........01:20:50
A 35 ........................01:20:56
JPK 10.80...................01:21:05

2nd race:

JPK 10.80....................01:27:38
SUN FAST 3600............01:28:38
JPK 110.......................01:30:15

3rd race:

SUN FAST 3600.............01:11:12
A 35............................01:11:53
JPK 10.80.....................01:12:13

4th race- coastal race:

A 35 ..........................01:10:42
SUN FAST 3600.............01:11:19
JPK 10.80.....................01:12:29

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Very interesting results that show two boats very close in performances and also a A35 that is very close too. Pity we had not a JPK 10.10 racing. The 110 is a bigger, older and slower boat.... and even so come in 3th in one race.

Some 6 years ago I visited Jean-Pierre on its small shipyard to see a 110 that was one of the boats that I was considering to have as a cruising boat. Great boat still today and JPK a very nice guy that can adapt a boat to your needs like a tailored suit: the guy knows about everything regarding the needs of a solo racer, a crew racing and short handed cruising and is happy to make all the needed changes on his sailboats.

As unexpected the poor result of the Mat 10.10, a new Mills design and a boat that on the paper looks very fast. Here in real time on the coastal race could not beat neither a Grand Soleil 37 neither the JPK 110, a bit bigger those two but with a lower rating. The regatta results were not good also.

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Jpk 10.80

JPK is speaking a lot (about the shipyard and about this boat) but in the meantime we can have a better look at the hull.

The boat has already proved that is very at ease on the regatta field. Next big challenge will be the Spi Ouest were he will really see its performance against the best boats on the IRC circuit and for solo or short crew racing we will see on the Fastnet and on the Transquadra.

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German Frers, a cutting edge old timer NA.

German Frers is best known for the lovely swans from the 80’s, cutting edge at the time, magnificent cruiser racers that many still associate now with the perfect offshore cruiser.

Also known by his more conservative work since 89 with Halberg-Rassy but few will associate it with its contemporary cutting edge work for Wally.

The Frers family has the future assured in what regards the continuation of a major NA contribution to yacht design : German learned with his father and continued his work and now Mani is already working side by side with Frers.

Let’s look at some of their more recent work:

First a daysailer, a 60ft and an absolutely beautiful boat…incredibly fast too:

“Ciao Gianni” (a tribute to Gianni Agnelli) was born around the pleasure of day sailing. This is a combination of power, efficiency and acceleration.

Single handling sailing, easy maintenance, reliability and the possibility of sailing in any wind condition were the only requirements from an expert owner who had a successful Frers day sailer before."












Wally Indio:

"The design concept of Indio gravitates around efficiency.

Even in the lightest breeze she has to deliver an exciting performance and at the same time be a seaworthy yacht for long passages in bad weather.

The above will also reduce auxiliary engine power and fuel consumption while providing the guests with maximum amount of sailing time.

This approach requires the use of the latest technologies for design, construction and onboard systems.

The hull is a new generation shape developed for maximum performance and enhanced sea keeping capabilities using Tank Testing, Computational Fluid Dynamic, feedback from previous designs and new ideas….

The appendages package is a direct result from the racing developments with maximum control as the priority.

The simple Sail Plan has been refined with endless iterations together with the hull and appendages to come up with the best package.

The construction method makes extensive use of carbon fibre to achieve a though structure able to sustain the loads associated with this type of yacht in any weather condition plus high speed impact or running aground cases….

The deck layout, with its two cockpits offers plenty of privacy for the guests and the teak coachroof provides many options for enjoying the deck.

This simple layout allows for all manoeuvres to be completed with minimum crew and clatter.

The onboard systems, from the two gear direct steering system to the powered assisted sail controls, work flawlessly; key for a thrilling sail.Having completed the trials at the Superyacht Regatta in Porto Cervo both in light airs and strong breeze, achieving speeds above 20 knots while comfortably enjoying the ride with a friendly crew is a testament of the sound design, engineering and construction quality achieved."











And already with some years Wally Magic Carpet II: a lifting keel yacht that has won several maxi races, able also to provide luxurious cruising:










But it seems his owner wants it better and faster so there are plans for a Magic carpet III, a 130ft yacht. It looks more sharp and nicer than the previous Margic Carpet and I bet it will be faster:

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Slightly off topic: This is what I call "meat on the rail"...

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Slightly off topic: This is what I call "meat on the rail"...
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Great movies and great sailing images are always on topic. For me there is no sail more elegant and beautiful than a Latin rig. Unfortunately beautiful does not mean more efficient or most of all, easy to manage. There is still a lot of serious racing going one with Latin sails on traditional boats: The Spanish have a championship and the Arabs too.

The hulls are also beautiful and modern in a way that they maximize hull form stability: beautiful hulls on your movie and beautiful hulls and sails here:



















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