Interesting Sailboats - Page 632 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1266Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #6311  
Old 02-27-2014
PCP's Avatar
PCP PCP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal, West Coast
Posts: 16,191
Thanks: 21
Thanked 100 Times in 83 Posts
Rep Power: 11
PCP will become famous soon enough
Owen and Clarke 130 Maxi

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt vimes View Post
Is the first image contorted, or are me old eyes playing tricks on me...
The deck forward the mast looks enormous... But not so much on the other...
No, that's an effect of perspective. when something is big and you look at it fro one of the sides, the other looks smaller and this yacht is BIG (count the number of forward hatches and you will see it is the same.

A lateral view:

__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6312  
Old 02-27-2014
PCP's Avatar
PCP PCP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal, West Coast
Posts: 16,191
Thanks: 21
Thanked 100 Times in 83 Posts
Rep Power: 11
PCP will become famous soon enough
Owen and Clarke 130 Maxi 2nd version

And if you don't like the looks of that one, maybe you like more one of these versions

Click on the image and on the photobucket click on the + signal. These images deserve to be seen big. They lose a lot with the smaller size.









__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by PCP; 02-27-2014 at 09:16 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6313  
Old 02-28-2014
capt vimes's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 626
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 2
capt vimes is on a distinguished road
Re: Interesting Sailboats

No paulo - i was right, your first image is distorted...
Just check the distance between the lifeline stanchions on it all along the sheer... You will realize that the distance gets wider to the bow but which is not the case on the rest of the images...

on the lateral view from yours in a post above the mast seems to be placed very much midships... on the angled view you have the impression, that the mast is stepped very well aft amidships... which is clearly not the case, if those images all show the same boat...

Last edited by capt vimes; 02-28-2014 at 07:15 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6314  
Old 02-28-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 184
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 8
HMoll is on a distinguished road
Re: Interesting Sailboats

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt vimes View Post
No paulo - i was right, your first image is distorted...
Just check the distance between the lifeline stanchions on it all along the sheer... You will realize that the distance gets wider to the bow but which is not the case on the rest of the images...
That's the view where the bow is closer to the camera, thus showing stanchions to appear at wider distance. I don't think it's distortion, just a funny perspective/camera angle of the model. In another angle, the bow looks short, cockpit's huge, and stanchions may seem closer as they go forward.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6315  
Old 02-28-2014
capt vimes's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 626
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 2
capt vimes is on a distinguished road
Re: Owen and Clarke 130 Maxi 2nd version

no - just compare these two images:
almost same angle, apparently the same hull, completely different length of foredeck... the first one has an fish-eye like distortion to it, which should not be there from that angle and distance.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6316  
Old 02-28-2014
PCP's Avatar
PCP PCP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal, West Coast
Posts: 16,191
Thanks: 21
Thanked 100 Times in 83 Posts
Rep Power: 11
PCP will become famous soon enough
Re: Interesting Sailboats

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt vimes View Post
No paulo - i was right, your first image is distorted...
Just check the distance between the lifeline stanchions on it all along the sheer... You will realize that the distance gets wider to the bow but which is not the case on the rest of the images...

on the lateral view from yours in a post above the mast seems to be placed very much midships... on the angled view you have the impression, that the mast is stepped very well aft amidships... which is clearly not the case, if those images all show the same boat...
Same boat, different perspective. As I have said perspectives can be as misleading as real views if you look at the boat at a particular angle. this is the same boat that actually is just a project. The project is made in 3D in a computer and the computer can generate all the views you want...all correct but from different point of views and thatīs what you have there. I am used to work with those perspectives and I have no doubt about that boat.

If you still have doubts count the stanchions and you will see that they match on both perspectives or on the lateral view.

The boats you posted (same hull different cabins) are viewed from different angles. I don't understand why you insist. I took all the images from the same presentation, sent by the NA cabinet to a Luxury Charter firm.

Regards

Paulo
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by PCP; 02-28-2014 at 11:00 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6317  
Old 02-28-2014
PCP's Avatar
PCP PCP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal, West Coast
Posts: 16,191
Thanks: 21
Thanked 100 Times in 83 Posts
Rep Power: 11
PCP will become famous soon enough
Javier Soto Acebal 130ft Angel's Share

Owen and clarke has also a version of that 130ft for a daysailer look:



I can see some of you thinking: That's too much!!!! who would want a 130ft daysailer!!! Well they know that there is a market for it because they recently refited the original 2009 Soto Acebal 130ft Angel's Share (changes to the sailing systems, deck and sailplan). Soto is the Na but the overall desing, including interior is from Luca Bassani the Wally magician.

That's an amazing boat that deserves a better view:















The yacht, with the rig alterations from Owen and Clarke have been winning races:





A race boat in disguise?!!!
No, not really. The boat looks like a daysailer or a racer on its new refit but it is truly a luxurious cruiser with race winning potential. That black hull disguises port hulls and the boat features not only zenithal ilunination but the typical wally big rear "window":













Ivanvet likes this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6318  
Old 02-28-2014
PCP's Avatar
PCP PCP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal, West Coast
Posts: 16,191
Thanks: 21
Thanked 100 Times in 83 Posts
Rep Power: 11
PCP will become famous soon enough
From maxi to mini:

Foiling is on the order of the day and this is the less expensive way of flying over the water. Mini foiling:
(the opening image, even if interesting, has nothing to do with the movie content, except maybe that foiling is sexy)

DiasDePlaya likes this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by PCP; 02-28-2014 at 11:07 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6319  
Old 02-28-2014
capt vimes's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 626
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 2
capt vimes is on a distinguished road
Re: Interesting Sailboats

Quote:
Originally Posted by PCP View Post
Same boat, different perspective. As I have said perspectives can be as misleading as real views if you look at the boat at a particular angle. this is the same boat that actually is just a project. The project is made in 3D in a computer and the computer can generate all the views you want...all correct but from different point of views and thatīs what you have there. I am used to work with those perspectives and I have no doubt about that boat.

If you still have doubts count the stanchions and you will see that they match on both perspectives or on the lateral view.

The boats you posted (same hull different cabins) are viewed from different angles. I don't understand why you insist. I took all the images from the same presentation, sent by the NA cabinet to a Luxury Charter firm.
why should i COUNT the stanchions? i was talking about the distance between them which varies in the perspective just too much...
and the angle in which the renders have been done on the two images i posted, is really too marginal to have such an great effect...
i do not doubt you, or the NA but i know what can and is done with advertising images - trust me on that, if you do not trust my or your own eyes...
open the image in paint, lay the ruler and grid over the image and then count the horizontal pixels between stanchion #1 and #2 (73 px)
and between stanchion #4 and #5 (60 px) although all of those are on almost the same height, meaning almost parallel to the observer... that is just too much!
the good designer overdid it on the special effects and exaggerated the whole thing just that bit too much to look pleasing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6320  
Old 02-28-2014
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,793
Thanks: 1
Thanked 81 Times in 77 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: Interesting Sailboats

Vimey is correct.
Perhaps this 3D model was prepared just a a sales tool, i.e. it's a pretty picture.
I have done that too.
But the type of 3D modeling I prefer can be used as a file for CNC cutting so it has to be dead acurate. This is a builder's tool and not just a sales tool.
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (0 members and 5 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cruising sailboats for sale welch Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10 04-25-2012 06:20 PM
THE Yacht Builder List T37Chef Boat Review and Purchase Forum 26 07-08-2011 06:51 AM
Noob wonderings and questions about sailing, life at sail and sailboats Vans General Discussion (sailing related) 49 06-20-2011 01:18 AM
A List of ALL sailboats made with layouts? Myblueheaven Boat Review and Purchase Forum 8 10-08-2010 12:32 PM
Failure to Navigate - interesting post on Panbo Blog & from the NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 12-11-2006 07:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:10 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.