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Is the first image contorted, or are me old eyes playing tricks on me...
The deck forward the mast looks enormous... But not so much on the other...
No, that's an effect of perspective. when something is big and you look at it fro one of the sides, the other looks smaller and this yacht is BIG (count the number of forward hatches and you will see it is the same.

A lateral view:

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Owen and Clarke 130 Maxi 2nd version

And if you don't like the looks of that one, maybe you like more one of these versions

Click on the image and on the photobucket click on the + signal. These images deserve to be seen big. They lose a lot with the smaller size.









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No paulo - i was right, your first image is distorted...
Just check the distance between the lifeline stanchions on it all along the sheer... You will realize that the distance gets wider to the bow but which is not the case on the rest of the images...

on the lateral view from yours in a post above the mast seems to be placed very much midships... on the angled view you have the impression, that the mast is stepped very well aft amidships... which is clearly not the case, if those images all show the same boat...

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No paulo - i was right, your first image is distorted...
Just check the distance between the lifeline stanchions on it all along the sheer... You will realize that the distance gets wider to the bow but which is not the case on the rest of the images...
That's the view where the bow is closer to the camera, thus showing stanchions to appear at wider distance. I don't think it's distortion, just a funny perspective/camera angle of the model. In another angle, the bow looks short, cockpit's huge, and stanchions may seem closer as they go forward.
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Re: Owen and Clarke 130 Maxi 2nd version

no - just compare these two images:
almost same angle, apparently the same hull, completely different length of foredeck... the first one has an fish-eye like distortion to it, which should not be there from that angle and distance.

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No paulo - i was right, your first image is distorted...
Just check the distance between the lifeline stanchions on it all along the sheer... You will realize that the distance gets wider to the bow but which is not the case on the rest of the images...

on the lateral view from yours in a post above the mast seems to be placed very much midships... on the angled view you have the impression, that the mast is stepped very well aft amidships... which is clearly not the case, if those images all show the same boat...
Same boat, different perspective. As I have said perspectives can be as misleading as real views if you look at the boat at a particular angle. this is the same boat that actually is just a project. The project is made in 3D in a computer and the computer can generate all the views you want...all correct but from different point of views and thatīs what you have there. I am used to work with those perspectives and I have no doubt about that boat.

If you still have doubts count the stanchions and you will see that they match on both perspectives or on the lateral view.

The boats you posted (same hull different cabins) are viewed from different angles. I don't understand why you insist. I took all the images from the same presentation, sent by the NA cabinet to a Luxury Charter firm.

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Javier Soto Acebal 130ft Angel's Share

Owen and clarke has also a version of that 130ft for a daysailer look:



I can see some of you thinking: That's too much!!!! who would want a 130ft daysailer!!! Well they know that there is a market for it because they recently refited the original 2009 Soto Acebal 130ft Angel's Share (changes to the sailing systems, deck and sailplan). Soto is the Na but the overall desing, including interior is from Luca Bassani the Wally magician.

That's an amazing boat that deserves a better view:















The yacht, with the rig alterations from Owen and Clarke have been winning races:





A race boat in disguise?!!!
No, not really. The boat looks like a daysailer or a racer on its new refit but it is truly a luxurious cruiser with race winning potential. That black hull disguises port hulls and the boat features not only zenithal ilunination but the typical wally big rear "window":













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From maxi to mini:

Foiling is on the order of the day and this is the less expensive way of flying over the water. Mini foiling:
(the opening image, even if interesting, has nothing to do with the movie content, except maybe that foiling is sexy)

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Same boat, different perspective. As I have said perspectives can be as misleading as real views if you look at the boat at a particular angle. this is the same boat that actually is just a project. The project is made in 3D in a computer and the computer can generate all the views you want...all correct but from different point of views and thatīs what you have there. I am used to work with those perspectives and I have no doubt about that boat.

If you still have doubts count the stanchions and you will see that they match on both perspectives or on the lateral view.

The boats you posted (same hull different cabins) are viewed from different angles. I don't understand why you insist. I took all the images from the same presentation, sent by the NA cabinet to a Luxury Charter firm.
why should i COUNT the stanchions? i was talking about the distance between them which varies in the perspective just too much...
and the angle in which the renders have been done on the two images i posted, is really too marginal to have such an great effect...
i do not doubt you, or the NA but i know what can and is done with advertising images - trust me on that, if you do not trust my or your own eyes...
open the image in paint, lay the ruler and grid over the image and then count the horizontal pixels between stanchion #1 and #2 (73 px)
and between stanchion #4 and #5 (60 px) although all of those are on almost the same height, meaning almost parallel to the observer... that is just too much!
the good designer overdid it on the special effects and exaggerated the whole thing just that bit too much to look pleasing.
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Vimey is correct.
Perhaps this 3D model was prepared just a a sales tool, i.e. it's a pretty picture.
I have done that too.
But the type of 3D modeling I prefer can be used as a file for CNC cutting so it has to be dead acurate. This is a builder's tool and not just a sales tool.
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