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Re: Interesting Sailboats
Even if I agree with most of the content of that post this is simply not true:
Originally Posted by Mod Squad
Which brings us to the situation on this thread. A while back things began heating up between Paulo and Bob Perry on another thread. The moderators considered the situation carefully and reached out to Paulo, and asked him to tone it down. It was explained to him that his posts sometimes came off as being vitriolic and inappropriately aggressive; that much of what he was debating with Bob was a matter of semantics and did not represent an accurate reflection of the material being discussed. That while much of what he was arguing was correct, what Bob was trying to get across was that Paulo’s position was perhaps not completely accurate.
I was not asked to tone nothing done, I was asked not to debate Bob Perry points
. Nobody said to me that my posts were " vitriolic and inappropriately aggressive
" quite the contrary it was said that I was trying to debate constructively
The only thing I asked about Bob participation on this thread, that contrary to mine on the other thread could not certainly be considered constructive, was that was agreed to be respected, regarding reciprocity to what was been asked to me, namely not to debate his points, I mean this:
"I... I will drop Bob a similar note. If at this point Bob starts debating your points, I will send him a similar note and ask him to please let you go as well"
I resent the lake of truth of those statements that give a false idea of my character.
Here is the full content of what was asked me and why. Even not agreeing I complied with what was asked to me.
"debate with Bob Perry....
I am not writing to lay blame here, but clearly there is a tension building between you and Bob Perry. I understand that you are only trying to engage in a constructive debate. But it has gotten past a point where Bob wishes to engage with you.
I can see both sides in this situation.
But Bob has sent a clar message which will somewhat harsh in tone is asking you to disengage from debating with him. Whether you think that he is right or wrong, I am asking you personnally to please just let this go.
Make your points on other topics, but please do not try to debate with Bob. If at this point Bob starts debating your points, I will send him a similar note and ask him to please let you go as well.
"Re: Debate with Bob Perry....
I understand and I will drop Bob a similar note.
I also understand your point that on an open forum, people should be able to talk openly and not have the kind of tension that occurred there. I know both of you pretty well, at least in a virtual way. In many ways this is kind of tension not characteristic of either of you.
But it is there. As moderators when we have a particular member who is uncomfortable with another, for better or worse we reach out and ask them to disengage from debating with each other.
Thank you for your cooperation,
Third and last message:
"Re: Debate with Bob Perry....
I understand the points that you are trying to make. These kinds of situations are never easy to moderate. My request to you was part of a broad general policy that whenever a member complains about another member's actions, either directly or indirectly, the moderators will review the interactions of the two members.
Unless one or the other clearly violates forum rules, we try to avoid even the appearance of taking sides. In that regard we communicate directly with each member and ask that they disengage from debate with that other member. And appearing neutral was the reason that both your's and Bob's posts were removed.
As the tensions were rising, the moderators decided that it was time to reach out. And in accordance with our standard procedures, when we ask one member to ignore another, we also ask all other parties to reciprocate. And that is what we did.
I sincerely hope that you will remain active on SailNet.
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Last edited by PCP; 03-24-2014 at 06:44 AM.