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Ringle:
We knew from the start that we couldn't pull off the authentic look of an antique boat. My fear was that we would end up with neither fish nor fowl. I see it frequently. So we eliminated the teak toe rail, cabin trunk eyebrow and hatch trimming and went all composite for a clean, kind of modern, look. This way we have kept upkeep to a true minimum. Soap and water is all it takes. It is what it is, a composite boat.

But I respect different tastes. That's what keeps me in business. While you may think it's my sparkling, congenial and pleasant personality that lands the commissions it's probably more to do with the range of design styles I am comfortable working in.
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First thought that comes to my mine is a german Jollenkreuzer. This one here, build in 1928, is stunning. The boat above, not so.
Somebody has to say it.....

Sternik, your taste is all in your mouth.
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we are all entitled to our aesthetic opinions.

Sterniks are way bad but that's ok. He likes what he likes.
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SloopJonB, your comment alone shows that your views and views of others like you, contributed to the total destruction of this thread. There is a reason why vehicles designed on this continent are not a sales hit in the other parts of the world. Same goes for boats. No mass production boat builder will stay profitable by selling "new old boats" and global market economics have proven that time after time.

The Jollenkreuzers where ahead of their time when they were build, together with the boats mentioned by Jeff H on the previous page. First operational sail wings were used in the late 1930s and not on AC boats, as it is believed. So from my perspective, sir, it is your taste that is, well, dated.
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SloopJonB, your comment alone shows that your views and views of others like you, contributed to the total destruction of this thread. There is a reason why vehicles designed on this continent are not a sales hit in the other parts of the world. Same goes for boats. No mass production boat builder will stay profitable by selling "new old boats" and global market economics have proven that time after time.

The Jollenkreuzers where ahead of their time when they were build, together with the boats mentioned by Jeff H on the previous page. First operational sail wings were used in the late 1930s and not on AC boats, as it is believed. So from my perspective, sir, it is your taste that is, well, dated.
Huh? "total destruction of this thread"

Paulo took his ball and went home.

Bob is a very successful yacht designer. Surely that makes him an interesting and valuable contributor to this thread?... even if you don't like his boats or agree with what he says.

Being neither a successful yacht designer nor having any taste, you simply sound petulant, sir. (never enough use of the word `sir', don't you find?)
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The Twisted Knickers Club is alive and well here.

I believe, sir, that people are responsible for their own actions. Jon didn't make anyone do anything, sir.

Checked in the ENCLYCLOPEDIA of YACHT DESIGNERS for more info on Curry but sadly he did not make the book. That surprised me.
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If you look at the way the Francis Lee was engineered and built you would see that she is not in any way a "new old boat". She is very modern in her design and construction. However she was not built to satisfy anyone except Bob and me. So it is perfectly OK if she does not appeal to you. No harm no foul. Cheers! Kim.
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SloopJonB, your comment alone shows that your views and views of others like you, contributed to the total destruction of this thread. There is a reason why vehicles designed on this continent are not a sales hit in the other parts of the world. Same goes for boats. No mass production boat builder will stay profitable by selling "new old boats" and global market economics have proven that time after time.

The Jollenkreuzers where ahead of their time when they were build, together with the boats mentioned by Jeff H on the previous page. First operational sail wings were used in the late 1930s and not on AC boats, as it is believed. So from my perspective, sir, it is your taste that is, well, dated.
I'd check things more carefully before making pronouncements about the rest of the world - Buick is hugely popular in China - the worlds biggest car market. In fact IIRC it is THE biggest luxury brand there. American cars have never been popular elsewhere mainly due to their size - they are designed for American roads and don't fit well on country lanes. Big V8's are frequently heavily taxed elsewhere as well.

I've watched people trying to drive big American cars in Europe - it's amusing to watch them try to fit them in to those little spaces. Just imagine driving a Suburban in London

When they come here and drive on our roads they frequently say "Now I get it!" about their size, suspension & design.

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you simply sound petulant, sir. (never enough use of the word `sir', don't you find?)
My son the cop says that a major "tell" of a persons guilt is when they call the cops "Sir".
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