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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Interesting that both those disparate measurements were from US sources - one the US Defence Mapping Agency and the other the CIA.

No wonder the US Government can't agree on anything.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

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Also, we are able to recognize the different countries in Europe - that Swans come from Finland, Beneteaus from France, Bavarias from Germany etc.

They aren't all simply "European" boats to us.

It's not too tough.
Yes, they are all European boats to you or to anybody else that knows geography. The same way US boats and Canadian boats are American boats, more precisely North American boats. That is not an opinion but a fact...unless you decide to change Geography.

Here you have the Canadians of C&C saying that they are North American and making North American boats:

"C&C ... the premiere race boat builder in North America"

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Call it what you want, you are not obliged to respect the official Geography, you can make one of your one, one where you can put also Ireland in UK, for that matter.

This discussion makes no sense, I am out.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Silly argument. You may want to talk to a couple of Canadians. You seem to want to lump Canadians and Americans together or Canada and America together. That's not going to go down very well my my many Canadian friends. You simply do not know what you are talking about.
But your gone so it doesn't matter. You keep telling us your gone anyway.

And just for accuracy sake:
You say Ireland is not in the UK. There are two countries that use "Ireland" in the name. Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland. There is no just plain "Ireland". My bad for being lazy and saying just plain "Ireland". But silly Paulo, you correct me then you make the exact same mistake. In the future I am going to be more careful when I refer to that area.

"Ireland" is as accurate as saying "North America". They are both two different countries.
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Re: Dehler 46

The new Dehler 46, which Paulo posted about a while back, is starting to take shape.
http://www.dehler.com/news/article/a...eel-the-fut-1/
The deck looks very sleek, with a low cabintop. I suspect freeboard will provide standing height below.

http://www.dehler.com/nc/new-46/docu...File%5D=264581

Interresting is, that the 46, just like the 38 does not have chines. Obviously Dehler is interrested in a fast boat. If J/V or Dehler thought chines were necessary for better performance they would certainly incorporate them. Thoughts?
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Interseting boat ( 46) I like the deck edge detail.
As I have said s many times here, and made a few people unhappy, Chines don't benefit all boats. Give the D/L of this type I can;t se chines helping performance. Chines might help interior volume aft but not performance in terms of boat speed. Chines could provide a marginal increase in stability but not enough to offset the negative effect of digging the chne in at modetae angles of heel in moderate breezes.

I suspect J/V know exactly what they are doing. They seem to do it very well, over and over.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

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Here you have the Canadians of C&C saying that they are North American and making North American boats:

"C&C ... the premiere race boat builder in North America"
C&C was a Canadian company. They were bought by the parent company of Tartan yachts in 1995. After that point, all of the C&Cs were built in the US, to new designs.

These are a better source for information:

http://http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/...tory/index.htm

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http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%26C_Yachts


I've never met a Canadian who liked to be called an American.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

But it appears there is no more Portugal - only "Europe".

Or maybe I just don't know my geography.
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"I've never met a Canadian who liked to be called an American."

Yes, it's a bit like calling a Kiwi and Aussie or callling a Taiwanese a Chinese. They may smile and correct you but inside they are seething.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

curious on anybody's take on the "new" soft wing Benetau is pursuing. Sail just did a big spread on it.
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That's a feature I'd have to try myself before judging it.
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