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I like Classic American styled boats. That's my style. I am not Euro in any way. Never will be and happy for that. I leave designing those boats for the people who enjoy that style. I certainly see no reason other than juvenile pettiness to make personal attacks out of the differences. There is room for all styles of boats. I like differences. I enjoy boats of all styles myself as an observer. But I stick to what I do best. I think some of the modern European designs are very beautiful.

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Re: Interesting Sailboats

I don't think the difference is so much Euro/North American as it is Radical/Conservative.

Some of the Scandinavian boats are pretty conservative - I can't see Hallberg Rassy's being classified as "Euro" in the sense of the term in this thread. I also suspect that the majority of non-racing North American sailors would love to own one but simply can't afford it.

It's kind of ironic that, for the most part, the radical design changes are coming from the "Old World" and the conservative attitudes are found in the "New World".
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After a tremedous amount of deep thinking I think it's more a capitalism/ socialism kind of thing.
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Well not sure what to think about all of this. Hate North America as much as some like.
Despite that they can't find popular blogs about anything somewhere else, and guess they are back here.
On the other hand North America is big Island as looked on globe in this beautiful world of ours. Fighting didn't get as very far. So what is idea fighting about our pleasure craft?
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I'm not fighting. I'm having fun.
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I like Classic American styled boats. That's my style. I am not Euro in any way. Never will be and happy for that. I leave designing those boats for the people who enjoy that style.....
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Also, we are able to recognize the different countries in Europe - that Swans come from Finland, Beneteaus from France, Bavarias from Germany etc.

They aren't all simply "European" boats to us.

It's not too tough.
Are you sure? To some European boats are all the same: Euro style!
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Paulo I think Bobs critique of 3 boats in this months Sailing sums it up. You have the Eagle 54. A " spirit of tradition" boat. Designed in holland( Europe ). A C&C Reline 41 designed in (Ireland ) made inR.I.. And a Hanse 445 designed and built in Europe . Country of origin has little to do with design program or style.
Of more interest is continuing divergence among ocean boats ( CE1). One group going with tried and true evolutionary design elements ( Morris, HR,Passport,Outbound etc.). Other going with low freeboard and dagger boards, or lifting/ chanting keels, or center boards. Some incorporate ultra high aspect bulbed fins. Agree those designs are primarily coming out of Europe but again one offs from Maine and R. I . also include those elements.
Think the boats rather than the countries are more important in this little blue pea in the void.
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Paulo even in the mega yachts you see this. Perini Navi evolutionary. New England Boat works pushing the envelope.
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Paulo:
From what I can see only you have a problem with this. Why don't you give it a rest.

Besides I thought you left. "I'm going. I'm really going. This time for sure I'm outa here. No, I won't back. I'm really leaving this time. I'm gone."
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Well there are definitely fewer pointed shoe boxes with IKEA interiors but there is still interesting stuff going on.

Paulo has his blog if you miss them.
Yes, there a definitely fewer pointed shoe boxes, in fact there is fewer of everything.

As for Paolo's blog, I liked to have the pointed shoe boxes right here in a forum that I frequent.

Since you do not seem to appreciate said shoe boxes, may I pose the question why the feck you came to this thread in the first place?

Boats are like life, variety is good.

Why only listen to the same three country songs all the time?
Why only eat the same three meat and potato dishes all the time? Toss in some Asian food every now to spice things up a wee bit.
Why only drink Napa Cabs when there are so many good wines from Italy and France (and Portugal)?

This thread used to provide a variety of interesting boats, including some classic American designs.

Well, it does no more.

Happy now?
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