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Got it Jon. But if I have to choose between Paulo's opinion on chines and Juan K's I think I'll go with Juan K's. Juan K. is a yacht designer of some experience in this area. His ideas make sense to me.
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I think you guys are selling chines. ...
I am not interested in handicapping my own design with training wheels. I wil gladly let someone else design for the beginners who don't like to heel. ...
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Maybe you should read what I wrote before coming to a decision on what my postion on chines is. ....
Yes I used the training wheel analogy but that was one comment on one kind of boat with one kind of chine. But I really don't think you know what my position on chines is.
I'm not sure I have a "position on chines". I'd love to hear it.

I have said all along the application of chines has to be matched to the specific boat and it's intended target performance. That seems like simple naval architecture to me.
That's about the same as saying nothing. If you disagree on my analysis regarding those two specific boats say so and say why.
That's typical of you...vague comments but nothing concrete. The speed target of those boats and the conditions how and where they would be used are pretty clear.

I am not disagreeing with JK. I don't know of what boats he is talking about. He says: "Some designers are exploiting them well but, yes, a lot of it's about fashion."

I believe for instance that Marc Lombard and Finot/Conq are exploiting them well while the guy that designed the new Hunter 37 and 40 used them only to increase interior space and because they are fashionable.

I am clear not vague in my statements.
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Paulo:
Give it a rest.
I have explained my position on chines very clearly. If you still can't understand why don't you read slower next time. Your angry, personal attacks are juvenile and tiresome.

You continually revise your own position and I find that funny and revealing.

I'll say it again. On chines I agree with Juan K. Simple as that.
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Paulo:
I need a favor and I know you would just love to help me.

Can you tell me about the over all quality of the Delphia line?
I have a friend looking at a Delphia 40 and I know nothing about these boats.

If you don't want to help me I totally understand.
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I agree with Juan K. Simple as that. Chines have relevant, beneficial applications on certain types of boats. It's not complicated.

I'm working on my blog today. The blog has been getting a lot of hits this last week since I increased the size of the blurb at the bottom of my post. MARKETING!

Today I am blogging the entire Baba story like it has never been told before. Baba's don't fit into this thread but they built a hell of a lot of them and they are respected boats and to boot, it's a fun story.
Just read Part One. I like it. Some good info I wasn't aware of. Look forward to reading more.
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Rhapper:

I'll try to keep the blogs coming.
145 hits today. That's pretty good. Make me happy that people are enjoying the blog.
Thanks.
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If anyone out there has any inside info on the Delphia boats I'd sure like to her it.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Delphia Yachts has been on the very top of boat builders from Poland, with numerous awards: Delphia Yachts - Awards

The company has recently acquired Maxi Yachts About - Concept and Delphia's Saphire 27 won the “European Yacht of the Year 2014” in “Special Yacht” category Saphire 27 - Slip and trail without a crane

The background and reputation is solid, if I recall Dephia also won an award at Chicago Strictly Sail. These are well build modern boats, in my opinion.
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Many thanks Sternik,
I'll pass that along to my friend. He is looking at a Delphia 40 in Seattle. They are a rare boat here.

Many thanks to those who visited my blog today. We will be well over 200 hits for today.
Do you guys see the little box in the upper right hand corner that gives the blog traffic statistics? Or can only I see that?
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Delphia started 1990, ie somewhat new boatbuilders.

In Europe they positions themselves as low cost (production in Poland is considerably cheaper than in "western countries"), but reasonable to good quality. They are competing with Bavaria - Delphia considered to be more interesting, but Bav has started to use top designers; personally I would prefer Delphia if only for the reason that one sees Bav everywhere. My own impression is that eg Hanse and Bene is a step up in quality, which of course a generalization.

The early boats from Delphia should be carefully inspected, it does take some years for a boatbuilder to get an even quality. Last five years Delphia seems to have stabilized, many customers have given positive reports.

A Delphia in the US? Unusual, which has consequences on both buying price and later on when selling. This goes without saying ...

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Yep, able to see it. 245 yesterday is very good.
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