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Thanks Jaramaz. That should be all the info my friend needs. They are asking about $185.000 USD for this boat but it needs another $20,000 of gear to go. His wife likes the interior.

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Thanks for that. I wondered. Yes, I'm very happy with 245 visitors yesterday. But it puts the pressure on me to keep coming up with interesting stuff.I only have so many boats.
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Paulo:
Give it a rest.
I have explained my position on chines very clearly. If you still can't understand why don't you read slower next time. Your angry, personal attacks are juvenile and tiresome.

You continually revise your own position and I find that funny and revealing.

I'll say it again. On chines I agree with Juan K. Simple as that.
Well, mine is Juvenile your's is very misty. I did not have changed my position on chine and since you seem confused I explain: they can be used for three things: To increase control over the boat and make sailing easier, to increase hull form stability at a given angle of heel or to help a boat to plan. Different types of boats use chines for different purposes according with the designer's intentions. They can be well or baldly used because they also increase drag when badly used or in some cases they would just do nothing.

It seems that you don't know but all cruisers that I know designed by JK have chines. They are not many, the most known and mass produced is the First 30.



He says that some designers know how to apply chines, others not. I agree and I even said that clearly Finot/Conq and Marc Lombard, that have a huge experience with modern chines coming from designing many racing boats, are among the ones that work better with them.

Regarding the Delphia, besides the information that was already given to you this thread has plenty of information about them. If you use the thread search engine you will find it.
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Paulo:
Give it a rest. You will not change my mind. I agree with Juan K. on chines. Period.
This is getting very old and tiresome.
You must have something better to do.

Thanks for the heads up on the Delphia info. I had a memory that you had covered it here.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

I have seen two Delphia 40's out sailing around here in Annapolis and been aboard one at the boat show. The show visit did not leave a strong impression so I can't talk about apparent build quality, deck layout, or level of fit and finish. But I did have several chances to see them under sail. The boats that I observed do not seem as fast as I would have expected or as weatherly. They did not seem to do very well in light air, but seemed better when I encountered them in a moderate breeze. They seemed to be struggling as the wind picked up (maybe 15 knots) and may have needed to reef. Their sails seemed to be properly trimmed so that did not seem to be the problem.

The only other thing about these boats is that their gelcoat (one mustard coloered and the other burgundy) seemed to chalk and fade very quickly.

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Thanks Jeff. What you are saying is kind of the impression I was getting about the boat.
The fit and finish of the interior did not look that good to me and that big fat ass stern has too much wetted surface written all over it for good performance.
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Thanks Jaramaz. That should be all the info my friend needs. They are asking about $185.000 USD for this boat but it needs another $20,000 of gear to go. His wife likes the interior.
If this is a Delphia 40 then it is an old boat (~nearly 10 years?). $ 200' is too much. The follow-up 40.3 sells used for less. (even fatter ass + 2 wheels, of course).

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Delphia 40.3 demobåt 2009 | Skåne
In Swedish! That boat has all kinds of equipment. Asking price $ 150' (and in Sweden where boats are much more expensive than US).

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Thanks Jaramaz:
I have been forwarding these posts to my friend.
He's on his way to San Francisco next week to see what he can find down there. He and his wife have not fallen in love with anything they have seen yet.

I appreciate the back up on this as does my friend Doug.
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Delphia Yachts has been on the very top of boat builders from Poland, with numerous awards: Delphia Yachts - Awards

The company has recently acquired Maxi Yachts About - Concept and Delphia's Saphire 27 won the “European Yacht of the Year 2014” in “Special Yacht” category Saphire 27 - Slip and trail without a crane

The background and reputation is solid, if I recall Dephia also won an award at Chicago Strictly Sail. These are well build modern boats, in my opinion.
I agree with that. Regarding the 40 they have been changing the interior but that hull is old and it is already a bit outdated. The boat has a good B/D ratio for the type of keel and is considered a safe boat.

As you properly know one circumnavigated recently on a non stop attempt. It made the circumnavigation but not really non stop because it hit a submerged object and had to stop to repair the rudder. Otherwise the boat did well.

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