I have had a thorough look at Elan 410 and Dufour 40e, but not testsailed them. Both of them lack the double rudder option and also have quite a low ballast ratio. ....... Salona 41 was not around when I bought the Dehler and now feels a little bit outdated by all these new breeds.
Beneteau Sense would be very interesting if it would be possible to do a 39 feet version at 3,95m wide.
There is more to reply to your post, but let's begin with these points:
The Elan (and the Salona) are not " quite low ballast ratio
" sailing boats. They have a "normal" Ballast ratio for these type of boats: 33%
. The Dufour is a bit "lighter" with 30%. But remember that your Oceanis had only 27% and the bulb was higher (CG higher) because these boats have a lot more draft.
I don´t understand why you want a Beneteau sense. They don't go well against the wind are heavy and slow and they have a low ballast ratio. A 39 ft version of a Sense would make the RM 1200 a very fast boat, by comparison
and the ballast ratio is similar to the Beneteau Oceanis.
I guess that when you talk about outdated you are not talking about aesthetics or are you? If you are it can make sense to have a Beneteau Sense
but if we talk about performances that is an entire different story
For me aesthetics are important but what really make a boat outdated is its sailing performance, after all it is for that they are designed, specially performance boats, to sail well. There are several ways to design a fast boat (shape of the hull, beam) and in the end what counts is how well the boat sails.
To understand the comparative sailing performance of the Salona 41 we can take a look at the last world ORCi championship (September 2010). The Salona 42, that is a 41 with only one steering wheel made overall third place in the fastest category.
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Third place for Salona 37 and Salona 42 at ORCi World Championship in Flensburg, Germany - Salona Yachts
Of course, ORCi is an handicap championship with many races but with one big offshore race that has raced on the two ways, up and down (the boats went downwind and upwind) and it was raced with stormy conditions, with winds of 30k and over. That was what I wanted to really have a look at the performance of the Salona 42, and of course I was interested on the real times, not on the compensated times.
The Salona racing was a 42R, that does not mean a truly racing boat but only the standard Salona built to IBC specifications and with a lighter interior. The things that make it IBC are on the option list of a standard Salona, not a carbon boat like some other racing versions of cruising boats. That boat is used to cruise and even had a webasto heating system mounted.
On that race the Salona arrived in 5th place (real time).
The one that arrived first was a DK 46, a carbon cruiser/racer with 9 hours 10m 26s
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next a Ker 11.3 (a racing boat) with 9hours 51m 31s Race1 Ker 11.3
the third at only 28s, a Rodman 42, a racer that was won already ORC championships and that is one of the fastest race boats around
the fourth was a Dubois 40, a carbon/kevlar race boat with 10h 01m 45s.
the fifth was the Salona at only 3s from the Dubois
In sixth arrived a King 40, a very expensive and exclusive cruiser/racer with 10h 04m 10s
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In seventh the Grand Soleil 42R, a factory boat completely different from the cruising boat
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another racing boat a Rainbow 42 arrived next
and then the second big production boat, a First 40 comes next wit 10h 12m 21s
and that was a good result behind come a lot of fast boats including some racers: IMX 40, a x-41, a Luffe 43, a Dubois 40, a Pacer 376, a Prima 38...and the two Elan 410, the fastest of them made it in 10h 48m 23s.
I confess that the study of those numbers helped me to understand better the Salona 41 performance. Actually they say in the shipyard that the 41 is going to be just a bit faster because they managed to make it slightly lighter.
Hei Anders, do you still think that the Salona 41 is " a little bit outdated by all these new breeds"?
Well regarding aesthetics it is a personal thing. Personally I find that the classic Salona look will make it fashion prof. I mean when boats that today seem very trendy were substituted by the next trend, they will look outdated but the Salona will continue to look.... Classic
Some photos of the World championship: First one the DK 46 with the Salona in hot pursuit. The second, the Salona 42.