Am I assuming that you personally took those photographs? Do you know the owners and can you provide some details? I don’t read French so you have to help me out. ... What race are they going to do? ...I’ve been thinking about the 10.2 boat and am curious about that retractable keel and what purpose does it truly serve? Do you think they do it to reduce surface area for running down wind?
I am unfamiliar with the European horsepower rating. Can you convert it to HP? I am guessing that it is about 15 HP which was about the size on the ULDB I used to race on.
No, I didn't take personally the photos and I don't know personally the owner.
They are not going to do any race, this is not a race boat, they are going to circumnavigate (a couple) and thats what this boat is equipped and designed for.
The retractable keel has nothing to do with sailing but with cruising. To have a good upwind performance and maximize ballast this boat has all the ballast in a deep bulb and consequently a draft of 2.40m. That is too much for cruising so this boat has a lifting keel that permits it to have a very small draft for anchoring near the shore protection (1.3m) and also a deep draft for better sailing performance (better upwind pointing, less need of ballast).
19cv is about 19hp.
The other thing that got me to wondering is the extreme faceted shape of the hull. I understand that hard chines are “in” now, but this is extreme. Then I thought, perhaps they don’t have the techniques to shape a curved surface. With all the surfboard building down in Santa Cruz (home of the “fast is fun” crowd). We take curved surfaces for granted. Even the one-off Newland 36 I used to sail on was very nicely shaped.
That is a plywood-epoxy boat and curved surfaces are a problem but even in modern performance carbon hulls where curved surfaces are not a problem designers found out that chines, if well designed improved performance. Top racers all have chines now. Its "in" because they work, not because it is a fashion. Chines are old news to racing boats, they are starting to be used on cruising boats. These guys design race boats, they know what they are doing.
I saw a Pogo “mini” on a trailer at the boat show, but I am unfamiliar with the one you’re talking about. Got a link?
The Pogo mini is a racer, we are talking about Pogo cruisers, the 10.50 and the 12.50. Use the search engine on this thread and you will get plenty information.
I really don’t think that the Fox 10.2 was intended to be a gunk holer. 12 gallons of useable diesel, 15 HP engine, twin rudders, anchor stowed in the aft lazarette really more the features of an ocean racer than something you want to explore the back creeks with IMHO. Are the Europeans much for mooring fields? What are the tidal changes in the Med? Perhaps they need to retract for low tides? Or perhaps the boat was meant to be dry sailed and they want it to squat lower on its trailer or jack stands like an Antrim 27?
This is not a trailer boat, the engine has 19hp and that seems enough for 3800kg. The sail qualities of this boat and its ability to sail in very weak winds will make that engine really an auxiliary. This is a sailboat and they want to sail it
In the Med there are almost no tides, in the Atlantic Coast of France the tides are big.
Again, we are talking of a boat that is prepared to circumnavigate, so that small draft is a bonus everywhere and increase the ability to look for shelter in bad weather.
Paulo certainly has a lot of time on his hands surfing the net for interesting (and sometimes weird boats. It would have been nice if he was knowledgeable enough to discuss their features in an adult manner.
Well, that is not nice and it is incongruous from someone that confounds a performance cruiser with a racer and make so many obvious questions