Regarding the Salona 38 and has it will not be a completely new boat but a new interior and a modified transom but using the 37 hull, let me repost what I have said about the 37, pictures included:
Originally Posted by PCP
On post 399 I have said that I am waiting with great expectation the announcement of the new Salona 38 and that, if the boat is up to what I expect , it is possible that my search to the boat that fits me and my budget would come to an end
The boat is coming to substitute the 37, that is already a very beautiful and fast boat. My respect for that boat and its performance was recently enhanced when I had a look at the results of the 2010 World ORCI Championship, that was raced in September.
The 37 that was racing there was not, contrary many other boats, a disguised racing boat posing as a cruiser racer. No, this one was a true cruiser racer that even had mounted a webasto heating system.
The boat finished overall in 3th place on its division, but not being a racer, what interested me was not the boat performance around the cans and in compensated time, but the boat performance on the offshore races and in real time (the championship was composed by 9 races, 7 inshore and two offshore).
On the shorter offshore race, raced with 30k winds, gusting 40, the Salona 37 finished first on real time with 5. 59.41 (2nd on compensated), beating a sharp and fast Dehler 39 (6.22.11) and a X 421 (6.16.15).
On the longer offshore race, raced with “breezi offshore conditions”, the Salona 37 finished first in real time (again):
with 8.26.25 and (again) second in compensated time. The third boat in real time was the Dehler 39 with 8.46.28 (3rd on compensated ) and the Dufour 40 special finished fourth in real time with 8.47.44 (5th on compensated time).
I have told you before, the Salona 37 is a fast boat…and I hope, the new 38 would be a faster one.
I have only two images of the new boat and they are small:
The boat comes with a much more modern look, it has port hulls not only on the saloon but also on the cabins and it really is a shame that they have not used a new hull. They say and with a certain reason that the boat is a winner of many races and is still winning so they see no reason to modify it.
Well, it makes some sense but for most of the buyers the "look" is as important as efficiency and what looks sharp today are boats with the beam brought more aft. The advantage for racing with a crew may be inexistent but that type of hull takes nothing on the speed potential upwind (if the beam is the same) and adds an easier downwind ride and that is specially important for cruising when short crews or solo sailing are the rule.
Let's see that comparison between those two 38 footers, the Jeanneau
and the Salona
(metric system- m, kg, L, m2):
STD Draft: 1.95
STD Ballast: 1870
Ballast/Displ. : 30%
STD Sail Area : Genoa 35.0, Main 36.0
- Genoa 42.9 - Main 45.0
Tankage: Water 206+130 Fuel 130
- water 180+90 Fuel 100
Engine : 29hp
- 29 hp
Fridge : 180
The Salona is a bit longer but has a smaller LWL. That revels the Jeanneau more recent hull.
The tankage, including fridge, showing always a small difference towards Jeanneau.
The Ballast, showing a considerable difference towards Salona. As the boats weight about the same that is also a considerable difference towards Salona in what regards Ballast/Displ. ratio (30%
The Sail Area reveals a considerable difference towards Salona (+ 37%) and that is in consonance with the superior B/D ratio.
Finally, the Salona has a smaller beam and probably also finner entries.
All this will make the Jeanneau a boat with a slightly better cruising autonomy and the Salona a considerable stiffer, faster and more seaworthy boat.
The performance of both boats can be improved with performance packages, but while the one from Jeanneau points to a bigger sail area (and that will make the boat less stiffer) the one from Salona points to a lighter boat and that will provide a even more stiffer and powerfull boat.
They say that the deep draft Jeanneau keel has 2.00 and I don't know if they are going to have a performance keel with 2.15 or 2.20 but even those keels are on jeanneau steel keels. On the Salona their optional 2.28 bulbed keel is a lead one and that will make a big difference in the saved weight. Also the Salona has an option for a vacum infused epoxy resin for hull and deck and that will provide a much lighter and stronger hull.
Between the keel and the epoxy hull and deck the difference in weight between the two boats will be considerable, something between 400 and 800kg.
The Salona running rigging is of better quality and it comes standard with 6 winches (2 on each side two on the cabin top) and a German mainsheet system. The Jeanneau will also come with the German mainsheet system but only with 4 winches, one on each side and that is a lot less practical because you have to change lines all the time (same winch for mainsail and genoa).
The Salona has a traveler on the cockpit near the wheel and that has advantages in what regards sailing but disadvantages in what regards cockpit comfort (Size of Bimini and a more free cockpit). The Salona has also an option to have the traveler mounted on top of the cabin. The Jeanneau has the traveler on the top of the cabin and no option to mounting it near the wheel.
The Salona uses a stainless steel structure on the bottom of the boat (and that also increases stability) where the keel and the shrouds are connected. This permits to take the efforts from particular points of the hull and redistribute them for all the hull. The boat will be stronger this way.
Interior: I cannot comment on any of these boats, but assuming that previous characteristics are maintained both boats will look good (even if for that you have to pay more 4200€ for a teak interior on the Salona) and will have a good interior design . The one from Jeanneau will be more "glossy" but the one from the Salona will be of better quality. The Salona as also an interior in light material (8200€) for the ones that want to race the boat.
The Jeanneau will be less expensive than the Salona but the difference will not be probably big in the Standard version.
I did not hear nothing about the Jeanneau price (Marty?) and the still not definitive Salona price will be 114 145.50€
An introductory sail away price including sails, Lazy bag and lazy jack electronic (with VHF, plotter and autopilot), water heater, coat barrier, anti-fouling, folding propeller and even mooring ropes, costs 129 500€. With more 8 708.80€ you will have a fast and very good and well equipped cruising boat with webasto heating system, teak on cockpit, Anchor, chain and windlass, Spraywood, cleats on the middle and last but not least, a top mast sliding system with "torlon" balls.
I would say that for the ones that really want to go fast, the performance package is well deserving the price: 20 233 €. This includes a deep lead keel (less weight) an epoxy vacuum infused hull and deck (less weight) a performance mast, performance deck hardware including a carbon spy pole and dyneema sheets everywhere.
This will make it a lot more expensive than the Standard Jeanneau but if you opt by a performance kit on the jeanneau, the jeanneau will also be a lot more expensive but not as effective in its mods: The Jeanneau will be increasing the size of its mast and the size of its sails without increasing the stability for carrying more sail. The salona will maintain its sail area and will increase its stability (less weight) becoming a more powerful and seaworthy boat. But make np mistake, I am not saying that the Jeanneau is a bad boat, quite the opposite, it seems to me that it has the potential to be a top contender in its category.