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Its a pretty sure bet that a 2010 boat will not meet current standards in 2050

I can tell you one thing for sure plywood core sucks BIG TIME now matter who used it
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If you know that you have plywood in a core, for instance around the mast
where traffic is heavy then any deck fastenings must be sealed tightly.
I have this on one of my boats built in 1973 and when relocating some hardware the drill tailings were as if the plywood core were new.
unfortunately a small leak can create a big headache down the road.

It is tough to drill into a boat before you buy it, but that is a part of your
homework. if you left it unattended, you have to blame yourself.

when buying a used boat, finding leak damage is way high on the list
and overlooked by many surveyors. I know many of them spend too much time squeezing PFD's and listing burned out bulbs.
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Would a Westsail fit? From what I hear they were well built and have a good track record. Dan S/V Marian Claire
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They're great, heavily built boats...but you need Beaufort Force 6 winds just to get them moving. They're often referred to as Wetsnails for a reason.

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good points are at anchor , they are very comfortable and quiet below
Boats going by don't upset this boat much and little if any slapping
against the hull, they don't roll much and don't search much at anchor.

also , many were superbly built by perfectionist types because they are or were cult level boats. I have been on one which had 7 types of exotic woods below. Another designed and built by a MD-11 engineer which was a
cathedral of beautiful woodwork and plumbing / water maker systems and custom stainless steel pieces everywhere. everything on board was beefy.

As for sailing, they are slow but in the trade winds on a reach, they will be adequate, but because of slowness, you may find yourself at anchor
more than other cruisers

As for any older boat , a hull survey is the first place to start. If you sea trial one , you will learn a lot as to whether this is the boat for you
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While I agree Westsails can be very well done they vary because they were sold as a hull/deck. My neighbor has one and the builder did a great job both in design and execution. But westsails did have plywood coring. My neighbor just had his cabin top recored professionally. The traveller bolts were the start of the problems and most of the cabin top was wet.
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