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I did not do well in the 20K to 25 k 32' to 34' as there tended to be reasons a boat that size was at such a LOW price

Be honest a re power and a few odds and ends on a boat that size would be over 20k
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I'm actually referring to some issues the newer, epoxy-hull boats have had... If the boats you're looking at are from the 1990s, they should be fine for the most part.
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Sailingdog, what years are you talking about for Tartans "exhibited very serious problems for boats of such a recent vintage"? And what problems?
My husband and I are looking at boats (30 -32 feet long) and only wanted to consider boats newer than 1989 because of the problems with blistering on older boats. We are currently looking at Tartan 31's and Pearson 31's. Suggestions and comments would be appreciated.
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Tomorrow's the big day.........survey on a T33. Hopefully all goes well.
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Sailingdog, what years are you talking about for Tartans "exhibited very serious problems for boats of such a recent vintage"? And what problems?
My husband and I are looking at boats (30 -32 feet long) and only wanted to consider boats newer than 1989 because of the problems with blistering on older boats. We are currently looking at Tartan 31's and Pearson 31's. Suggestions and comments would be appreciated.
Blistering where it may occur is largely a cosmetic problem subject to cosmetic repains. definately not a reason to exclude considering older boats. The cost of upgrades versus the purchase price is a factor, but for all but almost new boats, a 1990 boat can easily be as aged as a 1980.

That said, IMHO the big factor to consider in boat selection is to buy a solid galss hull, while blisters are cosmetic, a wet cored hull is a cost crisis.
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I respectfully but strongly disagree with the idea that "Blistering where it may occur is largely a cosmetic problem subject to cosmetic repains. definately not a reason to exclude considering older boats."

While some cases of blistering, especially in boats built after the mid- 1980's may be strictly cosmetic, I have seen boats where the blistering extends completely through the laminate and is in-fact structural in nature. It is a failure of the resin formulation and almost no matter how these boats get repaired, short or laminating an entirely new bottom, the blisters will return and teh laminate will be undermined. For all reasonable intents and purposes boats like these are beyond permanent repair.

The boats that I have observed with this level of blister/delamination problem, have been constructed during the early 1970's through mid- 1980's.

The cost to repair blisters on one of these boats can far exceed the cost of correcting core problems, and can be much more difficult to detect if an unscruplous owner chose to mask a bad blister problem by hauling the boat long enough to allow it to dry and then doing simple cosmetic repairs.

I also suggest that when looking at older boats, fatique in a non-cored hull can be a much harder issue to overcome than minor core failure. Of course major core problems will be very obvious to a qualified surveyor and if you encounter a boat with major core problems I would say, walk the other way or else buy her very cheap, which is the exact same advice that I would give on a boat with major blister problems.

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Good luck with the survey. If you find yourself still looking, I absolutely suggest looking at the older Sabres. They should fall within your budget, and I've had a tremendous time with mine.
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