Cal20 v C&C24 v Grampian 23 - Page 4 - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #31 of 44 Old 04-02-2010
Senior Member
 
bljones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,480
Thanks: 35
Thanked 91 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 8
   
More than the boat is worth if you have to pay someone to do it. At least one sailing season if you do it yourself, timewise, and depending upon the extent of the damage, your tool inventory, and expertise it could cost as much in materials and tools as your initial purchase price.
bljones is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 44 Old 04-03-2010
Senior Member
 
Jim H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London, UK
Posts: 594
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bljones View Post
More than the boat is worth if you have to pay someone to do it. At least one sailing season if you do it yourself, timewise, and depending upon the extent of the damage, your tool inventory, and expertise it could cost as much in materials and tools as your initial purchase price.
Sadly, bljones is correct. Redoing wet decks on a C&C is something best done after a few years of happy ownership, when you know the time will be worth it. It's probably not the first thing to do on a new-to-you boat, to keep the soft spot from spreading on the deck.

Our Cal 20 had a slight soft spot where a deck vent was put in incorrectly. Luckily, the Cal 20 has plywood in the decks, and we were able to remove and replace from inside the boat fairly easily.

That said, there are a lot of comfort differences between a C&C 24 and a Cal 20 (or even a Cal 25).

Jim H
London, UK

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Aurora, a mighty Cal 20 (Portland, OR)
Southern Rival, a seasoned Rival 34 (Gosport, UK)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Jim H is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #33 of 44 Old 04-03-2010 Thread Starter
Remember you're a womble
 
PaulinVictoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sidney, BC
Posts: 2,141
Thanks: 11
Thanked 55 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Well, I went and had a tap around and the only part I could find was the spot on the foredeck about 3-4" across. It was also mentioned in a survey from 2003 so doesn't look like it's actually got any worse. I'm fairly resigned to the fact that no boat that is 30+ years old is going to be perfect (nor indeed many that are younger) but as degrees of perfect goes, this one appears (pre-survey at least) better than most I've seen.

Orange Crush
1974 C&C27 MkII

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
PaulinVictoria is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #34 of 44 Old 04-03-2010
Senior Member
 
bljones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,480
Thanks: 35
Thanked 91 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 8
   
Frankly, as much as i am not in love with the way they look, I think a Grampian 23 under budget is a better choice than a C&C with soft spots and cracks around the stanchoin bases that is at the top of your budget.

Think carefully.

Yeah, there is no 30-40 year old boat that is perfect, but maybe there is one that is perfect for you. Is this one the perfect boat for you?
bljones is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #35 of 44 Old 04-03-2010 Thread Starter
Remember you're a womble
 
PaulinVictoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sidney, BC
Posts: 2,141
Thanks: 11
Thanked 55 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
It's been the best one I've looked at so far. If I'm looking for the perfect one, well, I need to win the lottery or accept the fact that I'm going to be spending the next ten years looking for a boat rather than sailing one
If the guy accepts my offer then I will get it surveyed and see where I go from there. At worst I've spent a few hundred bucks for nothing.

Orange Crush
1974 C&C27 MkII

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
PaulinVictoria is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #36 of 44 Old 04-03-2010 Thread Starter
Remember you're a womble
 
PaulinVictoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sidney, BC
Posts: 2,141
Thanks: 11
Thanked 55 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
The offer has been accepted, subject to survey and a sea trial. So, assuming they go well, I should be out on the ocean soon. Watch out mariners

Orange Crush
1974 C&C27 MkII

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
PaulinVictoria is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #37 of 44 Old 04-03-2010
Just another Moderator
 
Faster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 16,559
Thanks: 109
Thanked 317 Times in 302 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
Aaaaright!!!!

Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Faster is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #38 of 44 Old 04-03-2010 Thread Starter
Remember you're a womble
 
PaulinVictoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sidney, BC
Posts: 2,141
Thanks: 11
Thanked 55 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Now of course the question is, sea trial before the survey, or after?

Orange Crush
1974 C&C27 MkII

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
PaulinVictoria is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #39 of 44 Old 04-03-2010
Senior Member
 
bljones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,480
Thanks: 35
Thanked 91 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 8
   
survey first. The water in the bilge worries me, and I have a sinking feeling about the amount of wet core you are going to find.
bljones is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #40 of 44 Old 04-03-2010 Thread Starter
Remember you're a womble
 
PaulinVictoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sidney, BC
Posts: 2,141
Thanks: 11
Thanked 55 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
You may well be right, and it's going to cost me a few hundred dollars to find out one way or the other but at the moment as far as my untrained eyes can see, it's not bad. If the survey isn't good, I walk away, plenty more fish in the sea.

Orange Crush
1974 C&C27 MkII

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
PaulinVictoria is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
76 Grampian 28? gandydancer Boat Review and Purchase Forum 7 06-25-2011 02:30 PM
Grampian 30 a good boat? troyaux Boat Review and Purchase Forum 18 10-15-2009 02:01 AM
Need Grampian 28 Mast Height above Waterline sonnywitt Grampian 1 07-02-2006 10:56 AM
Grampian Summers Hawkwind Grampian 1 05-15-2006 11:50 AM
raising mast on Grampian 23 joec_43 General Discussion (sailing related) 0 08-22-2001 01:19 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome