Originally Posted by TexasWill
To the best of my knowledge we at about 45 degrees into the wind. The wind was about 9-11 knots, and we were sailing 3-4 knots. Then we tacked switching the wind off the port side (still at 45 degrees) and kept the same speed. Then we motored back.
It is not just the motor then, it's a deeper issue.
9-11 kts of wind close hauled should get you 6 kts or better.
This isn't me bragging on my boat, this is the very real performance expectations.
This is a polar chart done up by one of the owners (Isis
) - a owner who is well regarded, an aeronautical engineer, and a personal acquaintance of mine. I have tested it to the limit of my ability and the winds - it's real.
The example given is a good one - at 40 degrees apparent and 12 kts of TRUE wind you can and should expect 7.3 kts of boat speed, clean bottom, decent sails and proper trim a given.
I've topped 10 kts in 16 true, GPS and log confirmed, including photo's on this forum- and I'm loaded to cruise, dinghy, AC etc.
Three weeks ago, with a 15 month old bottom paint job my Admiral (MMR posting above) and I topped 6.5 kts in 12kts apparent - "light" loaded, no dinghy on the davits, no bedding, light liquids on board.
The polar uses jib and main - Isis doesn't have a screecher. I was using mine when I busted 10 knots, but not in the example above.
I am not aware of a lake capsized Gemini by an owner. I'd appreciate it if you PM'd me the name and hull number - I don't ask for me; there is a club called the Gemini Gem's, which consists of many of the owners. We'd like to know the story as it is pertinent to us (any Gem's story of a capsize is good to us for information purposes).
78k in receipts for a 2001? That is a seriously large amount of repairs for a Gemini. I paid 145k for mine new in 2007 (More with options -23k in add ons - 168 total). Current base price is 192k.
, a 105M sank at the pier under snow this year 5 miles from my slip, it was totaled for less than that. Just saying.
I don't want to spook your deal, if you like the boat you like the boat. I love mine, minus some quality control issues.
I was told there was a Gemini thread here with some speed issues, figured I'd present some info.