Gemini 105MC Slow speed under power - Page 7 - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #61 of 82 Old 06-08-2010
Senior Member
 
kd3pc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Callao, VA
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 11
 
the broker is trying to sell the boat...read the older responses, this boat ought to scream...all that broker stuff is crap.

The builder will have NO interest in "fixing" this, someone else chose to fix it, when it should have been scrapped. The builder only offers a one year warranty to start with, why would they volunteer to fix someone else's screwup.

Just be glad that previous lookers have uncovered this problem, and it is a problem, defective repair or some such.

Run away from this broker and this boat, neither are honest about this boat. Talk to Performance Cruising or test sail one of their new boats.
kd3pc is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #62 of 82 Old 06-08-2010
Senior Member
 
chucklesR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Pasadena Md - Magothy side
Posts: 5,979
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Rep Power: 12
     
Quote:
Originally Posted by therapy23 View Post
PPS

Thanks for the polars chuckles.
My pleasure.

Hope you have as much fun living up to them as I do. It's not easy, but it is possible.

Lessons learned are opportunities earned.
chucklesR is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #63 of 82 Old 06-08-2010
Senior Member
 
chucklesR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Pasadena Md - Magothy side
Posts: 5,979
Thanks: 10
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Rep Power: 12
     
Rusty,
If you are in Brisbane, save your travel dollars for a closer Gem and take it out for a sail.
Less buoyancy because of fresh water causing a speed reduction? BS.
Ask for a measurement from water to top of deck at the center most stanchion, starboard side and PM it to me. I'll take mine the same place today.
I'm cruise loaded as heavy as I get, half load on water and fuel right now. I'm showing 3 inches of original black bottom paint above the water amidships, less aft because of my dinghy, and full lockers aft (extra batteries on port side yada yada). My stbd cabin is remodeled as a pantry with 200 lb plus of pots, pans, soda's, and food. Port cabin is general storage, 200 lb plus of chairs, tables, grill, and various stuff. I carry a lot of extra back aft; I'd balance it out but prefer the bow to be light so I don't bury it in a power boat wake.

I'll repeat, flat water, no wind, 7.2 knots at full RPM - did that just last weekend. 2800 rpm; 6.0 to 6.2 knots depending on wave and wake.
Not 5.5

I'm not trying to kill the sale of this Gem, it's probably still a sound boat. My thought is the hulls got out of alignment when it capsized and that is slowing it down, or - having given it a lot of thought:

Gemini's aren't exactly built to high standards. There is a lot on non-encapsulated, non-sealed wood used in the construction. A capsize would have soaked it - it might be wet and heavy. It's been years, it might have twisted when drying. Other than weighing the boat when empty I don't know how to check that - and weight can vary. PCI says either 8,600 or 9,600 depending on who you ask.

It's a lot of might. I'm not a surveyor.

If you want to reach me, best way in on Anything Sailing Forum

Lessons learned are opportunities earned.
chucklesR is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
 
post #64 of 82 Old 06-08-2010
Senior Member
 
thesnort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 294
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 11
 
Rusty, I'm guessing you're in Brisbane, Australia and not Brisbane, CA. In any event, in either location, this is a Gemini too far. The transportation costs would be very high.
thesnort is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #65 of 82 Old 06-08-2010
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Achieve Boat Speed

My Gem will not achieve full boat speed with the boards down. Raise the boards and see how you do.

How are you measuring boat speed? The speed log is a worthless instrument for measuring speed, it only is useful for attracting grass and growth. If you are using the GPS, you must average the speed in both directions to achieve a true reading.

/Stu
stuartbell is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #66 of 82 Old 06-19-2010
One of THOSE!
 
2Gringos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Turks and Caicos Islands
Posts: 1,059
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
While I would dearly love to find out what is going on with this particular Gemini.....I would have to add my vote to haul butt to some other Gemini without any mysteries.

Expat Life in the Devil's Triangle:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
2Gringos is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #67 of 82 Old 07-06-2010
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
We were planning to head up to check this boat out. It is only four hours from us and I was excited to find a freshwater boat. I'm glad we found this post to hear the true story about the boat. The broker told me that it was caught in high winds on the lake and a few shrouds were damaged, he also said that the hull had a small gouge from hauling the boat out. Not that it was completely capsized and had a hole in the hull. The broker is a liar. Like everyone else said steer clear. I guess it is back to the boat search for us.
FunInTheSun is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #68 of 82 Old 07-06-2010
Old as Dirt!
 
svHyLyte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa Bay Area
Posts: 3,212
Thanks: 21
Thanked 155 Times in 147 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
If the yacht was flipped and had hull damage, I wonder if the bridge deck might also have ben torqued up. If the hulls are out of alignment, the boat will move through the water something akin to the way a vehicle with a bent frame "sidewinds" down the road. It wouldn't take much misalignment to induce extraordinary drag between the hulls--ergo, reduced speed capability.

FWIW...

"It is not so much for its beauty that the sea makes a claim upon men's hearts, as for that subtle something, that quality of air, that emanation from the waves, that so wonderfully renews a weary spirit."
svHyLyte is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #69 of 82 Old 07-06-2010
Back to just the Jon boat
 
therapy23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 941
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FunInTheSun View Post
We were planning to head up to check this boat out. It is only four hours from us and I was excited to find a freshwater boat. I'm glad we found this post to hear the true story about the boat. The broker told me that it was caught in high winds on the lake and a few shrouds were damaged, he also said that the hull had a small gouge from hauling the boat out. Not that it was completely capsized and had a hole in the hull. The broker is a liar. Like everyone else said steer clear. I guess it is back to the boat search for us.
I'm 40 hours away.
therapy23 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #70 of 82 Old 07-07-2010
Senior Member
 
QuickMick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,381
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
is this boat on lake ray roberts? if it is it is on my dock. pm me if you have questions and ill share with you what i know.

How inappropriate to call this planet Earth when it is quite clearly Ocean ~ Arthur C. Clarke

Quinn McColly
Macgregor Venture
QuickMick is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electrical Power on Board Kevin Jeffrey Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 02-11-2003 07:00 PM
Electrical Power on Board Kevin Jeffrey Her Sailnet Articles 0 02-11-2003 07:00 PM
Speed Week Redux Dan Dickison Racing Articles 0 09-27-2002 08:00 PM
Hull Speed Demystified Steve Colgate Learning to Sail Articles 0 06-10-2000 08:00 PM
Hull Speed Demystified Steve Colgate Buying a Boat Articles 0 06-10-2000 08:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome