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This is sound advise. Thank you. I just figure for the amount of money I have the inboard will probably be in less than good shape, and it would be cheaper to just get one with an outboard. Is that wrong? Do you think its feasible if I shop around to find a good deal for this amount of money. One reason Im looking at smaller boats is that I can probably get one in better shape for the money I have.
You are pretty much right on the money here.
CardiacPaul is right of course. Outboards seem to be the least useful when you need them the most. When the sea is running the prop pops out of the water and you go no place.
That being said I would focus on getting the most value for your money and not so much on the boat. At 10g if it floats and sails and you can sell it for 9g in a year or two after you know what you really like, whats not to love.

You are right about the diesel costs.
A Catalina 27 with an outboard might be 8,000 with a diesel it might be 15,000.
Smaller boats are simpler and cheaper.
A 27 footer is awfully big for an outboard. Most folks top off outboards at about 25'.
Don't forget you have little or no battery charging with an outboard.

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My Honda 8 charges my battery fine on my Haida 26. I don't have a lot of energy hungry appliances though.

Also, I have yet to get the outboard to pop out. I have very little overhang at the stern, and the outboard is in a well.

When I had a short shaft on an articulating bracket hanging off the transom of a boat with a healthy amount of stern overhang, the outboard prop was ventilating with any sea over a couple feet.
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My Honda 8 charges my battery fine on my Haida 26. I don't have a lot of energy hungry appliances though.
That is good to know.
Is the difference because of 2 stroke vs 4 stroke?
What exactly do you run on battery? autohelm?
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I used to own an S2 8.0b with a 7.5 horse Merc outboard and when the wind came up, the motor became too small for my needs. The boat in question is shorter than 27 feet. I never would take this boat, or any other, into blue water with an outboard.
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If I buy a 25 ft boat with an outboard, does that mean if I want to run any appliances I needs to install solar or wind? How about the indoor lights, what exactly are the limits of an outboard on lets say a 25 ft boat.
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IMHO, all sailboats are well served by having alternative (ie. non-engine driven) means of generating electricity though the location and mounting of solar panels, wind generators, and towed impellers might be trickier as well the storage of these items when not in use is an issue. Consider non-energy requiring and/or space saving choices. Like a stove top back packing oven vs. one built-in into the galley stove or a high quality cooler vs. on board reefer, a rail mounted BBQ, etc. Also the smaller the boat the more spartan the luxuries will be because of space issues therefore you will have be much more selective than someone on a larger boat about what you bring on board. Every piece of gear will have to earn its way on board and the more roles a given piece of gear can fulfill the greater its value.

When dealing with engine issues on a small boat one issue you will have to deal with is tankage. Generally the space used for fuel is not then available for for water and given the size of the boat there is a very limited of appropriately located space for tankage anyway and because deck space is tight jerry cans can be of limited value because of the limited number that can be carried.

The smaller the boat the more delicate the balancing act when it comes to gear. You might yourself a favor and read some of Lin and Larry Pardey's books as they have cruised successfully from many years on very small boats.

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