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I'm just off down to Club, does he want me to take it out and give it a good run.
More than happy to take it out weekends etc. :-)

Seriously - nice boat and for Oz nice price.
You're at Sandringham?? For some reason I thought you sailed out of Brighton!!?!..

Thanks for the offer ... but the rigger will be re-doing the shrouds in-place (apparently it can be done without pulling the mast) over the next few days and the delivery skipper getting her ready for the trip north (it's kind of a shame SimonV couldn't have done it - but it all happened so quickly..).

I'm hoping he got her for a lot less than the asking price - but the hull is in great nick and was antifouled only last November so nothing needed there. If there is anything a quick look or photo might help with, I'll PM you - either way, it sounds like you're closer than me.

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Sons do NOT let parents buy blinking "OLD SHOES!"

What got into you!?!?!?!?! oh lordy..........

Oh well, at least you can cruise together, them on one boat, you on the other. I will not say which of you has the better looking, and probably sailing old shoe tho!LOLOL

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Marty, to be fair, in my first post, I DID say I thought it was my fault..

We went to have a look at the boat when they were both down here a few weeks back, but I'm used to that. It seemed just about every time they came down here my Dad would have something or other somewhere lined up that he wanted to look at, so I thought it was just him dreaming again of buying a boat one day..

My parents have owned quite a few wonderful (hey, I'm biased.. sue me!!) yachts over the decades - including the Laurent Giles 52-footer "Ruthean" I practically grew up on, now being faithfully restored at my Club - one of which he skippered in a Transpac and a couple of Sydney-Hobarts (leading the fleet out of the Heads one year).

They're getting older now and, I guess, just wanting something comfortable to cruise in, but, to be honest, I'm not sure this one will leave the marina much. They actually wanted a trawler - but finding one fitted out already simply wasn't happening.

Nice as it would be, we certainly can't cruise together - they live around 2 weeks sail away... but we'll be up there at Christmas time and I'm looking forward to showing them the ropes... (and help with the varnishing - I'll have had PLENTY of practice by then!!)

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I think I would rather have a trawler than a HC TOO! There are plenty here in Puget Sound where I am located. Popular boat, and a few made in the area too.

Oh well, I also did not realize the parents were so far away. A 2 week sail must be a 1000 or so miles away? That would be like me going to northern Ca from here in the seattle washington area. A day or twos drive.........

Hope they enjoy it, and may be you too when up or down or where ever they are in relation to you!

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I'd forgotten that you're parents live in the deep north. You know in reality the HC is always going to be a better fit out than a converted trawler, even a really good one while to buy a 'trawler' style cruiser (Grand Banks and the like) is going to cost a hell of a lot more than the HC which they hopefuly did get for a few bucks less than the asking. Only real advantage the trawler would have is inside steering and I guess a better view from the saloon.
I guess that like most of us you are too busy to sail it north for them rather than a delivery crew ? Now that is a shame mate.
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I guess that like most of us you are too busy to sail it north for them rather than a delivery crew ? Now that is a shame mate.
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I think you will find the HC38 (and other close design Perry Boats) to be very 'surprising' boats to sail ..... quite fast but dont accelerate well out of a tack, etc. due to their high mass, etc. hence the 'bad' numbers. Such hulls are quite symmetric underwater .... and wont develop increasing weather helm even when well-heeled over.
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RichH....too true. One of the many boats we've considered over the years was BP's Baba 40 PH. I spoke with him about the design , my concern being what appeared to be a fairly old fashioned (read slow) hull. BP's answer was that these hulls, why they may not be as close winded as more modern designs are quite a surprise once the sheets are eased a tad. Having spoken to a few Baba 40 owners that appears to be the consensus.

I'm quite prepared to believe that as a cruising boat the HC would be quite satisfying to sail on passage.

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I'm quite prepared to believe that as a cruising boat the HC would be quite satisfying to sail on passage.
Of course no one will be on a beat constantly .... on a passage. I have a Ty37 which is BPs 'reply' to being cheated out of his royalties on the HC37 ... which they stretched into the HC38. All these designs are 'go anywhere' boats.
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I guess that like most of us you are too busy to sail it north for them rather than a delivery crew ? Now that is a shame mate.
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A, Yep... but I haven't entirely ruled it out. Mrs Hartley can see I'd be keen to do it and is happy for me to go, but as you know right well, there's a lot of ducks that have to line up for that to happen. If it does, you'll be the first to know.

If it doesn't, we're still planning on taking her across to Straddie or Moreton at Christmas time. It'll be the first time the whole family has been together on a yacht since we were kids and I'll be sure to post about it here.

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