All I'm saying is that there is a very compelling reason (many of them) that companies aren't churning out Newport 41 designs anymore. True, you can still buy a brand new 2011 Tartan, Hinckley, etc. that fits that bill. But many of the newer production boats are undoubtedly incorporating the newer/faster hulls. And this is where the market is.
Smack they fit the bill, I mean the kind of program Kev and and KH are talking about but their hull design and their weight has nothing to do with 40 year old designs. Two of my favorite cruisers that fit that bill (that is not mine) are the Malo and the Southerly.
If you look at a 40 year's old Malo you will see that it is a full keel boat, the modern one has a fin bulbed keel and that the hull is completely different.
Regarding those two, they were the choices of two of the most knowledgeable cruisers on the planet, kind of guys that sail a lot all around the world. But that does not means that are not the only types for that program, there is another well known globetrotter that had chose an Ovni, another totally different kind of boat. These are all different kind of cruising boats to a sailing program that has many points in common.
Those sailors are all Americans and they all had once full keeled boats that they have changed for modern boats and they all say that the new boats offer many advantages over their old boats. I guess they know what they are talking about
Yes, Thanks for posting it. As kev says "the boat is reefed down and in control, likely short handed"
and he is right. This is the best you can do on an old kind of hull.
You will have this constant kind of rolling that can be a amplified if in synchronism with the wave movement to a knock down as almost happens on the movie. The boat is much slower than the waves and these hit the boat from behind with speed increasing difficulties in controlling the boat.
You cannot have this boat on autopilot on these circumstances, you need to have an experienced hand at the Wheel to counteract the continuous rolling.
One of the reasons why modern designed boats, even when they are not the type of boats directly derived from Open designs, have large transoms is to prevent that rolling.
Also, if they are performance boats, they will plane downwind much faster than the speed of a displacement hull and therefore they will sail not very far from the speed of the waves and that makes them a lot less dangerous because the waves reach the boat almost with no power (almost same speed).
You can see on these movies that modern boats don't roll, they are steady and the wheels-man is having little trouble to control the boat. If adequately balanced and with the right speed they can even be left on autopilot.
Some of the movies are of racing boats (that's what I find on the net) but that's just the same principle and the same kind of hull, they are just pushed harder. If they went some 3 or 4 K slower they would even be a lot easier to control, and as you can see, even pushed that control is not difficult. Not any risk of a knock out as on the movie you have posted.
YouTube - Delivery
YouTube - Sailing Offshore in Class 40 Solo
YouTube - Rough Weather - Corentin Douguet Sailing crazy Figaro
Now, between modern performance boats take a look at the differences between the boats that are designed taking as reference the Open solo class boats and the boats that take as reference more classic racing classes (ORC, IMS, IRC).
Modern traditional racing boats:
YouTube - J111 at speed
YouTube - fast Sailing in 30 kts +
YouTube - Archambault 35 Skagen Race 2009 Dagny Sailing and Surfing
Open boats tradition:
YouTube - Pogo 2 NED633 Fast Downwind
YouTube - Akilaria Class 40 - Xmas regatta 2010 - Split, Croatia
YouTube - Le bongo de régional en entrainement
YouTube - Surfin Bird 2
You can see that for planning fast downwind the guys with Open type boats can go with short crew (or solo) and they don't need to make a lot of trimming on the sails. Sometimes they are on auto pilot while they go to the deck for adjusting the front sail. On the other kind of boats its different you need a good hand at the wheel and a good hand at the sails. More skill is needed and also a bigger crew.
That's why Open derived class boats are popular as cruising boats for guys that like to go fast and have fun as an important part of their cruising program : they are easy and more forgiving. With them you can go fast without a crew and without being an expert, just an experienced sailor
I hope this helps. I have yet a lot to learn and I love to learn, but I have learned already one or two things about boat design and performance and I like to share it. It make no sense to think that the best Naval Architects have done nothing right on the past 40 years. I just try to understand why they design the boats the way they do, assuming they know a lot more about that than I do.