A bit of a PS to my last post .. quite frankly (and I don't care who says it or on what forum) I find the term 'old shoe' offensive. Please remember however that when a certain Portaloo once of this borough first used the remark it most certainly did not include designs like KeelHaulin's simply because they were a few years old and less than cutting edge under water.
Personal abuse comes in many forms but there is little that is worse than insulting someone else's boat. Criticising or debating the pros and cons is one thing, outright abuse is another. Even when said in a jocular fashion there comes a point where the joke wears thin.
I agree with you about the term "old shoe" being offensive and I never have used it referring to old designs or boats. Fact is that I really love classical boats and in the "interesting sailing thread" there are some posts about them, meaning I find them interesting even if out of my budget (I mean if they are just new copies of older designs or if they are really classical boats with a total refit to bring them to the new condition again).
If price was not a factor I would seriously consider having one of those beauties, specially the ones with modern hull and overall classical design.
But I found another form of offense as annoying as the one you refer that is insulting someone implying that he don't know what is saying because he has no experience, without having the slightest idea if that person has experience or not.
I have being called many times in this thread "an armchair sailor" and someone has implied that what I know about sailing was what I have learned in the lessons needed to have licences for sailing in my country (and that is obviously in what concerns real experience next to nothing). This is not nice, and it is in my opinion even worse than to voice a negative opinion about someone's boat (that can even be true to that person and to the vast majority) because this is a lot more objective.
I have certainly not as much experience as some in this forum and I don't consider myself very experienced but I would say that I am certainly not an armchair sailor and my experience in heavy and light boats and technical knowledge is certainly enough to have an informed opinion about sailboats.
Regarding my experience I never counted nautical miles and most of the time I have sailed with the log off (out of service) going by the GPS and many times without log or GPS. I have said that I had made more than 5000 nm on the last 10 years and that's true but quite an understatement. That's because I really never thought about it (and I don't care) but now that some have questioned my experience I had a look at it:
My last boat had on its engine when I sold it 2400 hours. If 200 hours where for charging batteries or going slowly, about 2200 hours where used for cruising, sailing and motor-sailing. I never cruise or motor-sail under 6K and that means 13 200nm. If I consider (very conservatively) that I have sailed (without engine) 1/3 of those hours at 6K (when cruising to far away places, that is most of the time I motor sail if I am doing less than 5/5.5K) I will had more 4 400 nm. This is only what I have sailed in 9 years. I had own another boat for almost 10 years and I have no idea of the miles done, but certainly several thousands and I am not counting the miles done in charted boats and fried's boats. I am quite sure that I would have to add more some thousands (many of them made in an heavy two mast 18m steel sailboat).
All in all, now that I have looked at it, it should be well over 20 000nm, many of them solo sailing. Funny that I had no idea
I still don't consider myself a very experienced sailor but I know that I am many times the only sail in the horizon in places that have the biggest concentration of sailboats on the planet and that means that I have some experience