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Barquito 02-04-2011 05:02 PM

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I am looking at buying this sunfish to fix, but, am not familiar with the rigging. Looking at the photo, is there anything missing from the deck? It has the rudder, dagger board and mast elsewhere.

CalebD 02-04-2011 05:20 PM

The deck hardware appears to be all there but it is a little difficult to tell given the clarity of the picture.
It is good to have those 2 round inspection ports which help with getting water out of the hull. Unfortunately this also likely indicates that the hull does take on water (usually hull/deck joint) as if it was a 'dry' hull there would be no need for those inspection ports. A 'wet' Sunfish hull will begin to sail like a drunken whale after enough water gets inside the hull.
I can't tell from the photo if the deck mounted jib sheet block has a jam or cam cleat as well. You will want a way to cleat the sheet in higher winds.

mksailnet 02-04-2011 09:42 PM

Appears to be the old rudder assembly housing connection.

Check it out carefully--maybe look for a Sunfish parts catalog online.

May be expensive to upgrade to a much superior assembly.


CalebD 02-04-2011 11:04 PM

I agree with Marshall about the rudder connection hardware. It's likely the 'old style' which will function but is not superior in ease of use to the newfangled, spring loaded, kick up rudder attachment hardware. They sell it at APS: APS - Sunfish - Rudder, Tiller and Daggerboard
If it were mine I would worry about the rudder hardware later and take it out for a few sails and see how 'wet' the hull gets after a few hours on the water. I'd prefer to see if I could shore up the hull first so it takes on less or no water before springing for a new style rudder at $$$. You might also be able to find the rudder and hardware second hand somewhere for a lot le$$. One place to look would be the yahoo group SunfishSailor; lots of tips available there on how to fix up and upgrade these fun old, wet boats.

Disclosure: I've sailed Sunfish since about 40 years ago and have worked with a youth sailing program that uses Sunfish for the last 2 or 3 summers. No affiliation with APS.

Barquito 02-05-2011 04:26 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I'm looking for a boat to knock around in the local lake. The mother ship is 1.5 hours away. Not sure if I want this much of a project (would need to make or buy a sail).

CalebD 02-05-2011 10:25 PM

Keep in mind that working on a boat this size is vastly different and much easier then your keel boat. For one thing, all the parts can be brought home to a garage, shed or even just covered with a tarp outside. If you are not too proud you could even use a thin tarp or an old used sail to make a knock off for the simple triangular form the lateen rig uses. I think I have even seen used sails on craigslist for about $100 and used complete boats from around $500 on up.
The Sunfish would be a nearly ideal boat to just 'knock around in the local lake' on. When the wind dies you just raise the dagger board and use it as a paddle to get back. The hull is a little heavy for single handed car topping IMHO but the rest of the rigging would be easy to bring and take home each time, if the hull were locked on a rack or somewhere near the lake.
There were tons of these boats made and many knock off brands came out that use very similar hull design and rigging, so used equipment should be easy to find.
I wasn't trying to scare you off by mentioning that older hulls can and usually do take on some water; I was just being honest. The same is probably true of a similar boat that is popular in the mid-West, the Butterfly, which you might also consider. Butterfly Sailboat and Butterfly Sailing News, Information, Events, Results, Parts and Accessories, Used Butterfly listings It's rigged more like a Laser which you also might like.
I have access to a bunch of Sunfish about an hours drive from home and really enjoy the times I find myself sailing on one when I'm not on my Tartan 27'. One of my best sails last summer was on a Sunfish with a friend in winds gusting near 20 knots. We got that sucker planing on a broad reach and were flying - and hiking out and getting wet. I don't know how fast we went but it sure felt like way more then the 6 knots our T 27' can do on a similar course.
Fun boats but wet.

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