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too much too fast?

ok, by the numbers:

Hull:
Now I''m confused about the consequences of poor hull setup. There''s a rather active fleet in SF that''s been racing ALOT for quite a few years, and the entire fleet of 40+ year old boats seem to all have fine hulls, but maybe I missed something. What signs and consequences of poorly laid up hull would there be? I thought that would lead to flex and cracking. I''ve not seen this in ANY of the current fleet. Am I looking for the wrong thing?


Pointing, tenderness, and weather helm:
I''m going down to sail with a cat who''s got one in San Diego, so I guess I''ll experience the sailing characteristics first hand. All the rudders I''ve been aware of (been on the list for a while) Have been wood, so I''m not sure what the diffrence in how they were built was. As for the fractional rigging gripe, (and most of the other pros and gripes I''ve gotten about them) thats all from watching traffic on a mailing list between triton owners. I''m curious as to which boats of similar vintage point better. Not a challenge, or that I disbelive you, simply that I dont know ANYTHING about this other than what I''ve heard from the Cult of Triton, so I''d like some outside info. Also, regarding being tender, if it''s like the Alberg 32 my friend has, it does get over to 15 dregees of heel reletivley quickly, but tends to stay there, or close to it through a very wide range of wind conditions. once agian, I''m not sure if this realy applys to the triton. I have seen quite a few cats up in SF who crank on a genaker and get moving pretty quick, at which point they are over pretty far, but thats racing, with a big sail, so...

Atomic 4:
As for the Atomic, everyone I''ve talked to has said that the VW comparison was decent. It''s an old engine, which requires constant attention. It may be easy to work on, but you''ll need to work on it ALL the time. I belive you''re the first person I''ve ever heard refer to them as "reliable", and thats inside the cult and out, so here I''m confused agian.

undercut stern and bow:
Isnt that classic Alberg? arent all the boats he designed like that? Are you just not fond of his designs, or is it something specific about the Triton?


once agian, it''s not that I dont belive you, it''s just that I''ve been being fed conflicting info for a while on these things, and I would like some more info. As for the issues I mentioned not being issues at all, I agreed. Thats why I was looking at a Triton of course, if they''re as bad as you say, then perhaps I should look elsewhere?

Also, if you could point me to other boats you''d recomend, and how they stack up in similar tests, I would apreciate it.

Thanks

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too much too fast?

while you look at the Tritons, may I respectfully suggest another model/Brand.
The Columbia 29 was a contemporary of the Triton- a production boat built for coastal cruising that with some small refinements makes a wonderful liveaboard, and long distancve cruiser. They are about the same size as the Triton- 28'' 6" LOA and 8'' beam. They sail tightly and well.
just my 2 pen''orth
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Thanks. Now that I''m back to planning, and not looking to buy RIGHT NOW, thats the type of thing I''m looking for, although I think I may not have expressed that properly above, for which I applogize. Care to compare and contrast them? strengths/weaknesses from your POV and experience?

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Columbia 29
Pros- very seakindly, well built hull, do not seem to blister ( at least none that I know of) almost full keel, internal keel so no keel bolts, medium displacement ( 8000) go to weather decently. They sail surprisingly well in light air. For one person, or two close friends they have just enough room considering how narrow they are. Sparkman Stephens design.Cheap to buy.
cons- deck stepped spar ( would have preferred keel stepped) They will need a lot of work they are old! large ports and lights should be replaced as they are non opening.

I love mine!
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