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It is a beautiful boat, can't wait to get it out. Looks like it will sail beautifully, also. Has to be better than my last boat- a Bayliner Buccaneer 270-ugh!! Especially to windward.
Yes... now you actually have a Sailboat! - at least one that will sail.

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It is a beautiful boat, can't wait to get it out. Looks like it will sail beautifully, also. Has to be better than my last boat- a Bayliner Buccaneer 270-ugh!! Especially to windward.
That's like going from a Trabant to a 935 Porsche - you are going to be astounded by its performance.

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Re: C&C 30' Half Ton

One for sale up this way too, Not a three bad looking tub

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Same boat, has a little more interior, the pictures give ideas on how to build it in. Thanks!
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Hello fellow sailors
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There is a C&C half ton for sale in Victoria BC by SALT, thanks (or maybe not) to the donor of this vessel. It is a 1979, looks to be clean and appears ready to go providing the standing rigging, machinery, hull below water checks out. This particular vessel is a hydrostatic drive, not very common for "normal" sailboat.
Any one with experience or knows about this racer ? apparently only few were build.
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C&C built a few of them - Sailboat Data says 12. There are 2 or 3 in B.C. and 1 or 2 in Puget Sound. Also some in S.F. Bay.

Very eccentric boats - really only useful as daysailers and PHRF racers - very obsolete as race boats. Crouching headroom and very open interiors not conducive to staying on board. Slingshot cockpit really intrudes on the interior. The deck layout and rig came from probably the worst time of the IOR - the middle of the hardware wars. The deck is covered in hardware and absolutely everything is adjustable, to absurd levels. For example, one I checked out had the main chainplates on some sort of transverse slide so the leeward rigging could be slid a few inches inboard to "improve" the trim angle on the jibsheet.

I think the real deal killer on those boats is the hydraulic drive. They all seem to have it. Aside from that you could make a pretty neat day boat out of one - they are good looking, very racy styling, and pretty fast - at least as fast as a Peterson 1/2 Ton from the same era.

C&C custom shop built them so construction quality is pretty well unquestioned.
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^^ What he said

But the one at SALTS looks to be in as good a shape as you could possibly expect, at least going by the pics. Still a bizarre cockpit arrangement for anything but racing.

There's another rotting on a mooring buoy at Newcastle Island.. that's a sad sight.

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These boats sail wonderfully- I bought one last summer, and have had it out on San Francisco Bay several times. Light or heavy air, helm is easy and very responsive, turns on a dime, and even when over canvassed did not have to fight a bunch of weather helm. The Volvo diesel wasn't running when I got the boat, but in the process of fixing it, I discovered it is a very, very simple engine and easy to work on- dunno why everyone pooh-pooh's them, but it helps that I am a boat mechanic. The only thing I don't like about them is the hydraulic drive- the forward-reverse valve was frozen when I got the boat. I managed to free it up, but now it leaks about a quart of oil every 8 to 10 hours of running, so I am going to have to get it rebuilt- should be able to get it done at any hydraulic shop. I am reserving opinion until I get it just right. I'm sure I'll spend the next couple of years fixing the boat up, but it is basically a very sound boat, and even right now I wouldn't hesitate to take a day sail around the Farallons, or overnight up and down the coast. The interior is rather spartan, but for just one or two people on a weekend it is fine. I will know more about the boat after I haul it this fall, till then, this is what just I have experienced.
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Thanks All for your comments.
I did received info from SALT regarding the hydraulic drive which is off course Volvo Hydraulics. Crazy, in the early seventies as a very young graduate, I worked for Volvo BM and our Firm took on this brand new line of Volvo Hydraulics and my job was to find applications where this new Hydraulic technology could be implemented. I left in 1975 to discover Canada and proceeded with a career in the Oil and Gas. I can not take credit for implementation of a Hydraulic drive on a sailboat, what were they thinking ? The original pump and motor are no longer available and new models have replaced the old ones. Some parts may be still available or inter changeable, however no guarantees. A new pump and motor off the shelve is going to set you back about $6,500.00 installation and additional parts and pieces are more extra. So if you buy a boat with such drive, note to self, make sure it is working 100% or you could be sticking an outboard on here tail end. On my next trip to Vancouver Island, soon I hope, I will check her out and let you know. I may need some more info from Seannjen seeing he actually sails one. Seannjen what is the PHRF for the C&C 1/2T in your area ?
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Re: C&C 30' Half Ton

Hydraulic pumps rarely have any problems other than seals do they?

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