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I'm Losing My Mind. Choosing a boat...

I own a '72 C&C 30. Pretty good shape, needs sails. I am happy with how it sails.

I thought I had found my dream boat in a C&C30MKII but after looking at a couple, I"m not so sure.

What I use my boat for:
1. I spend weekends on the mooring, lot's of day sailing. I also cruise and anchor often but only for a a few days or up to week at a time and I never go more than 15 miles offshore.
2. Most of my sailing is single handed (that means most of my friends/girlfriends don't really sail).
3. Never race, but I do like the way a performance cruiser handles.
4. I sail mostly in LI, Block Island, Fisher's Island Sound.

The reason for an upgrade to something newer:
1. More space, modern design down below, but, I don't feel the need to go a bigger boat. Mostly I just need more head room and slightly longer berths.
2. A walk through transom would be lovely but not a deal breaker.
3. Self tailing winches, more lines led aft, a boat that requires less jib than my C&C 30 seems like it would be a little easier to handle alone.
4. Propane for cooking.

Budget is 40,000. That includes upgrades, tax, blah blah...

I want something built like a C&C that is fun to sail, easy to sail, and will hold it's value.

I'm still considering the C&C30MKII. I have another to look at.
I also thought about a late 80's Newport 30
Now I'm thinking of looking at a Nonsuch Classic??

I'm losing it. Slowly, I'm losing it
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A Newport 30 would be quite a down-step in build-quality and engineering.
If that does not deter you, find a Newport 33. This would have the interior room you crave.

If you want good performance with high quality... check out a Niagara 31. Hinterhoeller-built to a Frers design.

Lots of choices, actually.

Also, a later C&C 32 might be just the ticket.

Happy hunting!
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Catalina 30 MK III

Here is one I think is in your area. It hits on all your wants and is under your budget.

We just went from a C&C 24 1980 to a Catalina and I am very pleased with the build quality and the sailing ability. And you can't beat the resale value on the Catalinas. Add to that the ease of getting parts from Catalina Direct and I don't think you can go wrong.

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I raced on a Newport 30 MII in 2009 here in Chicago. Raced is being generous to this boat as it is very heavy, doesn't point, and is extremely slow. The only good thing I can say about it is that it is roomy for a 30 footer, and it can take a blow. At the beginning of the 2009 Michigan City race we had winds in the 50's for almost and hour and the boat handled well with a deep reefed main and doing a bit of motorsailing. By the time the race started it went light and we were done for. In light air or any kind of chop, forget it. We had ducks swimming past us.

As a former C&C 36 owner, I would recommend looking at their 33, 34 or the 36. I singled handed the 36 a lot and found it easy to handle once I had it set up properly. Other designs I would consider are the S2's, Tartans, and Pearsons. I have either sailed on those or know people that own them and found them to be great boats.

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Actually the C&C 30 mkII is a pretty good choice. Good sailing well built boat and certainly a more modern design. Others I would consider with your budget is Sabre 30 and 32, Cal 28, 31 and 33-2, Tartan 3000 and 31, and Pearson 31-2 and 33-2.
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Weve got a C&C 35 MKIII, 1983. Classic design

It would fit your bill nicely. We have the keel centerboard model. Quick- PHRF rated at 127. Haed with shower, propane lockers and stove w 3 burners, lots of room, well made, everything led aft, 4 self tailing winches, reliable yanmar, adequate tankage and storage, plenty of head room. Safe decks,

Points extremely well so sail great to windward. We take ours in the Ocean from the Chesapake to New England and LI Sound every summer for 2.5 weeks. Good seaward stability in moderate ( 10 ft ) seaway. Its a racer cruiser and has good amenities. Older C&C builds are very well made if you can find one in good condition. Is a one design racing fleet on the Great Lakes. Were built in Niagra on the Lake and also up the river from Newport RI for a while.

In your price range easily. Feel free to PM me

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Thanks for the fast, friendly and informative replies.
I like the C&C 35's I looked at online, but, many of them have too deep a draft for my mooring. I need to stay at less than 6 ft.
How would a landfall 35 sail compared to a MKIII?
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What kind of headroom do you need?

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Landfalls are configured differently in the salon and still are good sailing boats...not the same though. We have a keel/ centerboard 35 C&C which would do fine in 6 foot depths. Centerboard up the keel is 4'5"

There are some available in Md


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Landfalls are configured differently in the salon and still are good sailing boats...not the same though. We have a keel/ centerboard 35 C&C which would do fine in 6 foot depths. Centerboard up the keel is 4'5"

There are some available in Md
The landfall I called about today was sold To bad as it the pictures looked great and it was a brokerage owned so maybe I could have traded mine in on her. Thanks again for the reply.
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