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Since you are working in the summer, my vote would be for the Gulf. Lots of choices for the winter - Keys, Bahamas, Caribbean.

At your size and price range, you are looking at a project boat. Expect to put a lot of time and money into it before its ready for a "blue water" passage.
Yeah, it certainly seems to make more sense. I guess my main reservation is the desire to eventually sail the Pacific, but that is a couple years out still, so I shouldn't let that dominate this more immediate decision. Plenty of time to get over there, I suppose.

And yeah, I'm planning on putting a year's worth of time and some money on fixing up whatever I end up with. Although, not to sound too naive, I'm getting the impressing that if I wait for the right deal, $15,000 has a chance of getting me something that isn't going to require massive, fundamental modifications to be that seaworthy, especially in the shorter length boats. I'm definitely willing to sacrifice comfort and aesthetics for a solid little boat.
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Case in point for why I've gotten the impression that if you go small, blue water can be cheap: 1971 Bristol 27 Sloop

Pay 5K, put in 5K... or am I totally missing something (besides learning to sail)? The Bristol 27 is spoken of very highly, it seems. I was just turned on to it by the John Vigor book.
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Steve,
That listing gives remarkably few details. Bear in mind that it's very easy to buy a boat that actually has negative value -- meaning that, from a strict economic point of view, it would make a better reef than a boat. Keep poking around and enjoy the process of boat shopping. It never gets old.
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Steve,
That listing gives remarkably few details. Bear in mind that it's very easy to buy a boat that actually has negative value -- meaning that, from a strict economic point of view, it would make a better reef than a boat. Keep poking around and enjoy the process of boat shopping. It never gets old.
Good point. With enough poking around, hopefully a few real boats can be sifted from the reefs.
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Steve,

Learning to sail out of LA Harbor has some advantages. The winds are very predictable:very light wind in the morning. You can learn at slow speeds while you need to think about everything you do. Winds pick up around 1:00 so stay out later when you get the hang of things. Winds get much stronger from 2:30 to about 5 when you feel you are ready for it. After that start sailing to Catalina (four hours each way) and later to the Channel Islands for some long runs and more experience.

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A friend of mine lives on his Columbia 34. Very nice boat. It's been to Hawaii twice, from San Francisco.
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I'd love to spend that year in the San Francisco harbor, but that's got to be about as expensive as they come, right?
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S.F Bay is a great place to learn. As great as it is it isn't the ocean. I was told if I could sail S.F I could sail anywhere. I honed my skills, and left for Mexico. The ocean is just different, and in a good way.

Anywhere on the east coast, or gulf will get you to the Bahamas. One of this earths greatest, and prettiest cruising grounds. Especiialy since in a few hours you will be someplace completely different. It will take a lifetime to see it all. Which ever way you go, and what ever you buy. BEST WISHES.......i2f
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S.F Bay is a great place to learn. As great as it is it isn't the ocean. I was told if I could sail S.F I could sail anywhere. I honed my skills, and left for Mexico. The ocean is just different, and in a good way.

Anywhere on the east coast, or gulf will get you to the Bahamas. One of this earths greatest, and prettiest cruising grounds. Especiialy since in a few hours you will be someplace completely different. It will take a lifetime to see it all. Which ever way you go, and what ever you buy. BEST WISHES.......i2f
Thanks i2f, and everyone else for the input. Great forum here.
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Great idea

This is a great idea and I say this partially because I am in the process of doing the same thing. I am 25 and just bought my boat, a 1981 30' Lippincott. I got it for 8k because it has been sitting and the sails were shot, but the interior is immaculate and all the systems are in good working order. It has been a bit of elbow grease to get cleaned up, but my survey came through to value it as it sits at 14k so I think it was a good deal. Basically I will be out the door at about 15k with a really solid boat that will be of the value. This being said I took 2 years to find the boat I wanted and to buy it. My advice is look at what you want in a boat and see if any really spark your enthusiasm, this one to me screamed buy it and that is whats important that you love what you buy. I also read Nigel Calders Cruising Handbook which helps lay out what you want in a cruising boat, why different things are good, and how they work. With this I narrowed down my search because I knew nothing of all the different brands, but this let me pick out attributes and see who fit the bill.

I was also looking at this boat which is know is a bit out of your way, but the price seemed really good for what it is and it has been on the market for quite a while, if they didn't take the offer on the boat I bought this was my next offer.
Bristol Centerboard Sloop

Well I certainly wish you the best and make sure to keep us posted on the progress.
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