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trailer

I think it is a must to have a trailer when looking at the boat size(s) you're looking at. Hence I think the H is still a better option than the C(s)

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Yes Im leaning way toward the H. Can anyone make any recommendations of the better outboard motor brands? Also what would be the minimum HP you would get? Ive been finding some motors and anything affordable will have to be a 2 stroke. Although Ive heard people say that the newer 4 stroke motors stink?
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bigger

The bigger the old boat the more room you'll have, the bigger the head-aches you'll have, the higher the cost(s) for parts and maintenance.
Speaking from experience, started with a 10ft boat up to a 45' boat back to 32' now, but you know the saying "a boat owner always wants a bigger boat and their current one is always for sale because of that"
As a matter of fact mine is for sale for a steal.

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Well I think starting with the 22 Helsen would be a good choice for us. The boat has been redone, its ready to go, just finding an engine for it which should not be too hard. Its got a trailer, and it does have a nice enough cabin if we did sleep in it a night here and there.
Does anyone know if there is a Helsen forum or owners forum site out there?
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OB motor

I think an 6 to 10 hp OB would be more than sufficient for a 22ft'er sailing on an inland lake as I assume you'll be doing.
Any motor that checks out OK with a mechanic (compression, cooling pump, etc) should be OK. Don't discard the lesser known motors such as Suzuki, Nissan, Sail, and Yamaha, these 4 are as good as the major Mercury, Envinrude, Johnson, etc. in the smaller HP range.
It is nice if you can get a OB specifically made for a sailboat as they quite often have a alternator output which can charge your on-board battery.
Basically have any motor checked out by a professional, if you want to be sure.
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The Helsen looks like a good choice.

RE MOTOR I had a Jaguar/Catalina 22 and it came with a 8hp longshaft. I don't think I ever needed more than half throttle.

Anything from 4 to 8 hp will do but do get a longshaft motor. Buying used is always a bit of a ****shoot but if the owner can demonstrate it or allows you to test it and it starts easily cold AND hot and the cooling flow from the pee hole is steady then there can't be much wrong with it.

I also would not worry about age [except maybe for spares] on a used OB condition is more important. My tender sports a 23 year old Johnson which is still going strong.

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I have found a Nissan 6hp - its a mid to early 90s model and has 2 hours of use. Has the built in gas tank. What would thoughts be on that?
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I have found a Nissan 6hp - its a mid to early 90s model and has 2 hours of use. Has the built in gas tank. What would thoughts be on that?
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Oh yes 20" long shaft.....
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I have found a Nissan 6hp - its a mid to early 90s model and has 2 hours of use. Has the built in gas tank. What would thoughts be on that?
We have had several versions of the Nissan engines, a couple of 5hps and currently a 3.5. Largely trouble free and reliable. Basic maintenance, and paying attention to keeping old fuel out of the system is all it takes. Worst thing we had to deal with was clogged jets from dirty fuel, easy to strip and clean carb but some of the jets are rather hidden.

The only other problem with them is that due to popularity they might get stolen (ask how I know... )

Interestingly last time we shopped they were all made by Tohatsu (Nissan, Merc, and a couple of others) but Nissan offered twice the warranty period....

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