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aimcat 06-16-2011 02:00 PM

Decisions Decisions - Help me pick the right 1st sailboat!
 
This will be my husband and I's first sailboat - so we want something we can learn with easily and keep for a few years (hopefully) our budget is limited just because we already have powerboats, jet skis, etc so dont want to dump to much into this YET - so here are our choices:

Chrysler 22 - boat has 4hp motor (may need tune up), sails, etc BUT it does need some lines, blocks and a few rigging - boat has SAT for 4+ years and not been used. Also comes with trailer. Probably can get this boat for around 1500

Helsen 22 - boat is ready to go - just needs a wash/cleaning and needs a motor - 1350 firm on that price

San Jaun 21 - havent seen it yet but has everything, 2 main sails, 2 jib, 3.5hp motor and ready to go - 1000 firm

So far thats my opitions - we have looked for about a month and this is about it for options for us - What do you guys think?

Faster 06-16-2011 02:17 PM

Of the three, the SJ 21 will have the best support.... lots of them around, likely an owner's association loaded with tips and tricks, I think that's the place to start... might not be the roomiest of the three, though.

Depends on your agenda; what you want to do and where you want to do it.

aimcat 06-16-2011 02:40 PM

Learn to sail - but not racing! Just cruising around out lake enjoying the scenery, maybe camp out on the boat a night here and there. We will be on a lake that is fairly wide and good sized.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...usa/helsen.jpg
Helsen

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...rolusa/c22.jpg
Chry 22

EJO 06-16-2011 04:08 PM

the SJ21 might have the best support, but the Helsen is in my opinion your best bet. A lot roomier than the SJ and Chrysler. The H is a wider and little longer boat (a true 22' compared to 20.5' for the other 2) This extra length and beam will make quite a difference in a small boat like that, especially for that once and a while over-nighting. All are nice pocket sailers, but I would choose the Helsen 22, with its longer LWL and a weight in between the Chrysler and SJ and the same std Sail Area as the Chrysler, she is a quicker boat, but not as temperamental as the SJ.
Just buy one and go sailing.

Faster 06-16-2011 04:12 PM

The Helsen is a pretty little boat... in this price bracket as a 'trial' it's pretty hard to go too wrong....

aimcat 06-16-2011 07:11 PM

Ok gonna throw another in the mix....a 26 chrysler? 1500? No trailer. Would a 26 foot be over doing it since we are new at this?

Yes I do really like the helsen. I actually love the yellow. I know most people probably won't like it though. That name on the side has to come off though!

CalebD 06-16-2011 07:35 PM

The problem with going with a boat that has no trailer is you become liable for yard storage fees. Having a trailer that you can put in a driveway can save you a lot of extra $$$. You already knew this though.
$1500 for a 26' boat sounds pretty cheap. Does it come with a motor?

junkrig 06-16-2011 07:40 PM

A used motor for the Helson might easily double its price. Real cheap outboards can be nightmares.

aimcat 06-16-2011 08:52 PM

So your saying that finding a reliable outboard for the Helsen would increase its value.

Also on the 26fter has very old Johnson that sat all winter - and they arent sure it works.

junkrig 06-16-2011 09:07 PM

A reliable motor might increase the value, but sadly, you almost for sure wouldn't break even on a new motor come resale time. Old 2-stroke outboards will run for a long, long time if they don't sit with the carburetors full of fuel, but most of them have. It evaporates and turns into insoluble gunk.
whether you'd get your money back or not, you need a motor for security. I would recommend a new 2 stroke. They are fuel injected, which makes them fuel efficient, non polluting, light for their power... if it wasn't for how bad the old ones stunk, polluted, and wasted fuel, modern ones would be very popular.
I don't sell or represent any boat motor products.


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