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I have not found lease share available in CT. All are sold out through 2012.
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If you are still into it in a couple of months and want to sail a little, I'll be bringing my boat down from MA, up the CT river in Oct. or early Nov. Nothing fancy, but it might give you some ideas. You can come along one of the days and try it out.
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Great. PM me at the time. I can meet you anywhere (provided that I am in NE at the time).
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Fred, comments on a few of your items: Fuel seems really high. Using .75 gal/hour I just topped off with 7.1 gals since the beginning of the season and I'm sailing almost every weekend. Bottom paint: unless you pay someone to do it would run 300-600 depending on quality and # of coats. Sail depreciation: unless you really abuse them should be half your #, and I think that's liberal. Routine engine: maybe 100 for filters, oil, impeller, etc. (again DIY) But non-routine repairs could be much larger. One thing you didn't mention is insurance. If financing you'll have to have it and many marina's require it as well. Good luck with you shopping.

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One more time!

Cut fuel by 70%, sails by 50%, paint by 50% and rigging by 50% gives a total saving of $2200 per year.

That brings the recurring cost to ~$12k per year + finance. Give or take a few thousands for boat size and condition, you are looking at $1000+ per month no matter what.
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But I think you can cut your storage projections. Look at contract at the Portland yards and they will haul, power wash, store and launch for under 1K (depending on size of boat). And a mooring will cost you about that including maybe a dinghy dock fee -- so, my point is that you could have a place for your boat for about 2K. Everything depending on size of boat and location of moorings, but you can get that low even in NE. If you have to have a slip, though, I agree, you're paying much more.
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To GMC: Wife not crazy about dinghy but if the saving is that much, I think I could talk her into that. We are looking at 35-40'. That would knock nearly $6k from the $12k. Much more reasonable. I am assuming you are talking mooring in Portland?
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Boats in general

Hey,

Regarding a number of posts you have made, the reality of sailing is frequently very different from the fantasy of sailing. Before you jump in with both feet and buy a 35-40' boat, I think you would be better off with something in the 30' range first.

Even a 40' boat will not be 'luxurious' for 3-4 people. You will still have a fairly small and cramped V Berth forward, a small and cramped cabin aft and maybe a smaller and even more cramped cabin aft, or a decent sleeping space in the main cabin. The typical 40' will have 1 or 2 heads, a very small shower, a lack of hot water for showering, a cramped galley, poor closet space, and poor heating and air conditioning.

So, if you think a boat will make a nice summer cottage, think again. Then again, a boat allows you do go places, or go no where in particular, but have fun doing it. You can learn new skills, enjoy your self sufficiency, and spend time together.

I know lots of people who love sailing, and lots of people who don't like it. I also know many people who enjoy spending a few hours on a boat, but then want to go back to their comfortable homes.

So, before you get too involved, try to find you which camp you (and your family) fall into.

Regarding sailing locations:
The CT side of the sound is a great location. There is usually decent wind. August does tend to be light, but that's true for the entire sound. I think there is a HUGE benefit to having the boat close to home. Milford, Bridgeport (west of the main harbor) Stamford, Brandford, New Haven, West Haven, etc. etc. etc. are all nice places to boat.

Regarding your estimated costs - that's been beaten up enough already. A mooring can be much cheaper (for me it's $120 for the town permit, $100 for the mooring to be dropped in the spring and another $100 to be picked up in the fall), but, if you plan on spending weekends or longer on board, a mooring has no electric, water, or easy access to the showers, etc. on land.

IMHO, you should look for a Catalina 30 in decent condition. THere are millions of them all over the place. You should be able to find a nice one, ready to sail, for $30K. Buy it, sail it, have fun. If you love it and want a bigger boat you'll get your money back when you sell. If you hate it, you'll get your money back when you sell. If you decide you want to keep it, that's OK too.

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I do it the easy way. I pay for everything the boat needs, then I worry about stuff like food, clothes and other things.

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I think Barry made a lot of sense.

I think you can afford a slip close to home, without the hassle of a mooring, if you just get realistic about your boat size and do much of the maintenance yourself.

When I was boat shopping recently, I was absolutely stunned at the cabin size of the Catalina 30. What that boat lacks in length, it makes up for in girth, and they sail well. You'll find them in a variety of conditions ranging from "derelict" to "bristol" so you can pick your purchase price, and how much maintenance you want to put into it.

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