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I'm sure you got the idea, and your comparison makes total sense. I'm entirely committed to VW #9, can't beat their diesel, and of course my wife sells them too.

Your right on about blue watering Catalina or Hunter. Pretty in the showroom, comfy interiors for mass market, but for serious distance cruising . . . go serious.
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I've got to side with the Catalina camp. Full disclosure, I've got a C36, but I considered trading it in for a new Hunter 36 a couple years ago. I didn't end up doing it, but I did learn a lot about Hunter's build process/quality. I think production yacht quality these days is a lot like the automotive industry. Modern production techniques have taken a lot of the variables in quality out of the picture, and for the most part there aren't any huge differences between the two which is why the C36 v H36 debate continues unabated (kind of like the "best anchor" debate).

Having said that, I'm personally not a fan of cored hulls, I like stays holding up my rig, even if Hunter's B&R rig is perfectly capable of withstanding worse conditions than we are likely to encounter ( Somebody got caught on the outside ), and I am not a fan of veneered bulkheads (what happens if you scratch one? You can't sand it out).


I do think Catalina's stand up to wear and tear over years of use better than Hunters. Consider my super-accurate, scientifically derived stats from Yachtworld:

1991-1993 Catalina 36 average list price $66,500
1991-1993 Hunter 36 average list price $59,000

At the end of the day, it's personal preference. Back in my Army days, there were a lot of similar debates in flight school over which airframe was better. Like this debate, there was never a consensus, and it was always a pretty polarizing discussion; but when it was all said and done I had never met an aviator who disliked the airframe they were eventually given.

Go with what feels right, and get out on the water. Most importantly let us know what you decide (extra points for pics).
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I have been looking about to figure out our likes & dislikes in a potential liveaboard. I hadn't looked at the Catalina's until I came across this thread. I think I am going to take a look at a couple for sale over in Seattle. From the pictures I have seen online they look like a comfortable & efficient layout for a 36.
Steve - Be sure look at the MK I (pre 1992) as well as the newer MK IIs. In my opinion, the MK I is MUCH more functional as a liveaboard. You will find that you use the aft cabin for clothing and other storage. The aft cabin is far more accessible on the MK I and there is no waste of space with the bulkhead and door. In addition, the proper dedicated nav station on the MK I is probably the best I know of under 42 feet or so and it is a great computer desk for liveaboards. I can (and do) sit comfortably for hours typing reports for work. Just a few tips I thought I'd throw in.

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I'm sure you got the idea, and your comparison makes total sense. I'm entirely committed to VW #9, can't beat their diesel, and of course my wife sells them too.

Your right on about blue watering Catalina or Hunter. Pretty in the showroom, comfy interiors for mass market, but for serious distance cruising . . . go serious.
For an Atlantic or Pacific crossing a Catalina isn't the boat to pick, but you can achieve my definiton of "Serious distance cruising" with one going coastwise.

There was at least one C34 that did Norfolk-Tortola in last years Carib 1500 as but one example. For me that's serious distance. A well found C36 is quite capable of cruising the East/West Coasts and beyond.
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