Alllied Sea Princess 35 ketch

deniseO30 · #1 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

So, this is a boat that a YC member has and may be selling for next to nothing. I've not really looked the boat over much but I do know the interior needs allot of work. The owner seems to think the Perkins diesel, needs replacement or rebuilding since he didn't winterize it. It's sure to be a plumbing mess as well freeze damage to the engine. It's on the hard now but he's had it in the water 2 years before this summer. He's not used it much as it needs to be in bigger more open water. At this point in my life I'm pretty sure I don't need such a project even though I have a friend that would go in on this one with me. So I may go take a real look see.

70s something boats don't really stir my soul but hey, it's only a couple miles from home.

In all my net surfing I've seen some very well kept Allied boats. and the 36 princess seems be one of choice, although I'm not in love with this particular design.

typo in the heading. it's a 36

bljones · #2 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

Do you want us to talk you off the ledge, or yell 'jump!"?

deniseO30 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

well we are going to look it over at least lol

jimgo · #4 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

Be sure to take lots of pics and share them with us!!!

CalebD · #5 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

Sounds interesting. Is it an Allied Princess 36 ketch?
I got to sail on an Allied Seawind 32' ketch. Nice, heavy boat for cruising down wind in.
Definitely old school.
A boat like that needs an engine though.

Dean101 · #6 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

Wow, Allied Princess is on my short list of boats when I'm ready to buy. I too would like to see pictures and would be interested in hearing any information about the Princess that anyone has to share concerning handling, performance, liveability and such.

CalebD · #7 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

Calling Jeff_H!

I posted this in the last post: "Nice, heavy boat for cruising down wind in."

If the Princess is anything like the Seawind 32' then the hull is solid, the cabin smaller then more modern boats, she will not point so high into the wind because of the full keel and was perhaps more intended for sailing with the trade winds.
PRINCESS 36 (ALLIED) sailboat on sailboatdata.com

A fellow I met bought an Allied Seawind 32' up here in NY and sailed it down to the FL Keys and decided to sell her. He mentioned her ability to point and her speed as reasons for moving on.
The specs for the Seawind are here: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2954

Dean101 · #8 (**permalink**) 11-07-2011

Thanks for the info Caleb. I checked out the data pages for both boats and noticed the SA/D for the Princess was around 4% higher. I wonder if that gives it a little more power than the Seawind? Did your friend have a racing background and possibly expect more from the boat than she could deliver? I ask this because my intentions are to cruise so speed is not so important as comfort and safety. Of course, I do want whatever boat I decide to buy to be able to beat to windward but I can sacrifice a few degrees for that same safety and comfort.

In your opinion would you consider the Seawind adequate for cruising outside the trades? I'm also curious as to the amount of storage space.

MARC2012 · #9 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011

There is an allied & a sw group on yahoo.They came with a 4 107 but 108 same foot print.marc

CalebD · #10 (**permalink**) 11-08-2011

Dean101,
I'd try to find the Allied group on yahoo to get responses from actual owners of these boats. I only got a short overnight ride on the Seawind from LI Sound down to Manhattan.
My overall impression was quite favorable, but I happen to like older boats anyway (my Tartan 27' is from 1967). I'd say that if the Seawind I was on is representative of the brand then they are extremely solidly built boats. Because of the era of the hull design the cabin of the 32' Seawind is significantly smaller then a more modern 32 footer.
I happen to like the way the ketch rig sailed in light winds on LI Sound. Of course it would not point as high as say a new Beneteau sloop as the main mast is lower then a sloop rigged boat. The lower main mast height offers the benefits that the sails are more easily man handled and the boat tends to ride flatter then a sloop; less sail area means less force generated.
Like all boats it offers a compromise of various factors.