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Look - I'm nit going to get into a ping pong match on the subject.

The sea trial article was written by a very experienced passage making sailor with 10s of thousands of ocean miles under his belt. He wasn't paid or renumerated in any way. The only changes made were punctuation and spelling.

If you read the entire article you will see that he was very skeptical about the seaworthiness of the boat, before he sailed it.
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Passage-making downwind under spinnaker - with only 2 people on a 40 footer - is now so easy, you'll have fun doing it every time you go sailing. Exceptional performance and construction earned J/120 the distinction of being CRUISING WORLD magazine's OVERALL BOAT OF THE YEAR and the BEST VALUE in a full-sized cruising boat.


It still disagrees with anything ever written about the J120
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If your going to post add copy i will counter with other add copy
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How did this pissing contest get started again?
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n summary, the boat handled the delivery very well and I was extremely impressed. I have done this trip hundreds of times in 30 ft sloops, J-120s and one-design 48s. All got wetter and were scarier rides.

You really think i need to read the copy you cut and pasted pasted from

I sure your boat is much more user friendly and dry compared to a J24 or J80 BUT at some point it would not be the case and i would have to say the J120 would be one
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Bluenose yachts is building a new S&S-designed 30 foot daysailor for $150,000. It has a large cockpit and looks comfortable down below. I would like to see one finished as it looks gorgeous and although smaller than I would like, may meet my needs. I am not ready to buy one until I see a finished one. Sparkman and Stephens 30 BABE

Anybody have any other suggestions? Thanks
Yes - it should have longer overhangs. What a gorgeous boat.
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I am examining the following boats:

Jeanneau SO35
Jeanneau SO37
Jeanneau 36i
Catalina 350
Catalina 36MKII
Catalina 380/387
Sabre 362

and one Catamaran--MaineCat 30

I would consider the MaineCat 30 if I can get it inspected for 10-passenger day sails

Does anyone have any other suggestions other than the above while keeping the cost to less than $150000 (New or Used)?

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Nice daysailors that are more affordable.

I am having a hard time following the complete thread to this posting, so I apologize if this is redundant, however, we have sold the E33 for this type of use even if it is over the 150k mentioned.

E 33 YACHTS

and we are now offering the S&S 30

Sparkman and Stephens 30 BABE

Of course the Alerion 28 is viable as is the Schock 30.

However, as every yacht designer knows; every design is a compromise.
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So you are about to embark on an adventure of sailing and having others pay you for it. First thought is how to get the guests on board. Are they adventurous sailors? Is your boat appealing to them? Never sailed before?? Will it tip? Where do we sit? What number of passengers is your break even? Even after all this, the hardest part is the advertizing brochures, commissions,web page,on and on. It's great fun if you like to sail sort of like you liked sex so you changed occupations I've done it for a long while now (18 passengers) and cannot imagine working for a paycheck.But I often wonder what these jerks are doing in my home. Fortunately my partner is a people person so I can be the gruff captain. If you look around the net you will find the most popular timing is a threehoursail. If you consider looking for a turnkey opp, find me looking for new horizons.
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So you are about to embark on an adventure of sailing and having others pay you for it. First thought is how to get the guests on board. Are they adventurous sailors? Is your boat appealing to them? Never sailed before?? Will it tip? Where do we sit? What number of passengers is your break even? Even after all this, the hardest part is the advertizing brochures, commissions,web page,on and on. It's great fun if you like to sail sort of like you liked sex so you changed occupations I've done it for a long while now (18 passengers) and cannot imagine working for a paycheck.But I often wonder what these jerks are doing in my home. Fortunately my partner is a people person so I can be the gruff captain. If you look around the net you will find the most popular timing is a threehoursail. If you consider looking for a turnkey opp, find me looking for new horizons.
Hi Len,

You make some very good points. Fortunately I am working with someone who owned his own media/advertising/marketing firm. He will be taking care of most of that for me. Three hour sails are the way I want to go for now. Do you have any recommendations for a good 36 foot boat to use?
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