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Well I'm a tad biased when it comes to good looking boats.If you travel to away places you usually find a Spray operating as commercial sailing adventure by a couple. 36 to 44ft. Smaller, you can't bring in enough revenue .bigger .you have to and crew too.In Canada ,CSI is restrictive, anally so .Stateside much less so. Here ,watertight bulkheads and doors,Covered life raft,Fire and flood equipment up the ying yang,captain and crew cert,annual inspections and every 4 yrs all your intimate bits on the bench for a good look
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Go with the Mainecat. No heeling, no squealing, lots of room for lounging.
Or save 100K and just buy an old Formosa, an eyepatch and some cheesy shirts and offer a 3 hour Capt Ron experience.

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3 hour booze cruise with captain Ron and a busty hostess or two. Now that sounds like what most lubbers are really looking. Hey, where's that cheap Formosa?


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Did you hear about the charter boat skipper who won the big lottery? When ask what he was going to do with all that money, he replied "well, I'll just keep chartering 'till it"s all gone!
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Did you hear about the charter boat skipper who won the big lottery? When ask what he was going to do with all that money, he replied "well, I'll just keep chartering 'till it"s all gone!
LOL--so you are saying "Don't do it?"

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It's supposed to be funny. I've been sailing with passengers for 30 years or so and I might sound a bit jaded. Between spring and fall cruises and 3 months at the Thai beach hut it leaves me the summer months to make the donuts.See my page for a three hour sail. Most tourists have no idea what it's about but want a dream or nice picnic at sea, or.. I offer a sail for up to 18 (not a booze cruise) In spite of comments made here by Captain Ron fans , many guests say it was the highlight of their holiday. So say Fromers and Edmonton Sun.and I'm proud of that. Fixed costs like moorage, insurance, licenses,maintenance ,advertizing ,etc go on while sitting at the dock not making the $1000 because it's cloudy can be annoying. And what's your time worth?If on a good day you make 300 or so and two days with two guests and two days scratched ,Hope the week end is better, because you have been on call all week. It is like fishing, or strolling a street corner . Personally I wouldn't take a paycheck job to replace my life style again and Ive had some pretty decent positions.(In my book) You should remember that I built my boat and this is who I am. It's not for everyone, for sure. Run the numbers, have a business plan,don't sell the farm yet as you make a decision. Or do like I do when faced with a BIG choice, Flip a coin.
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The Affordable Perfect large Day Sailor..... you can not find it because there is not any significant market for it. If it is a day sailor it will be a coastal boat so it does not need to be big since a 22/24ft boat can already sail with 4 and a 30ft with 6, so why bigger? Only sail schools will be interested in more places but they use open boats for day sailing and that increases the number the places on the boat.

The market that you are pointing (charter day sailing) is dominated by day sailing catamarans that can offer a lot more places for the length and provide sailing without heeling. Most of those boats are specifically built and they can be quite big. They are not expensive neither luxurious.

The other market for day sailing regarding over 30ft monohulls is a luxury market that has to do with possessing a top sailing and beutifull boat just to sail around. Something to be proud of and to cherish. If we were talking about motorcycles we would be talking about café racers : You don' need one to go to the café, but certainly you will go with style in one

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It's supposed to be funny. I've been sailing with passengers for 30 years or so and I might sound a bit jaded. Between spring and fall cruises and 3 months at the Thai beach hut it leaves me the summer months to make the donuts.See my page for a three hour sail. Most tourists have no idea what it's about but want a dream or nice picnic at sea, or.. I offer a sail for up to 18 (not a booze cruise) In spite of comments made here by Captain Ron fans , many guests say it was the highlight of their holiday. So say Fromers and Edmonton Sun.and I'm proud of that. Fixed costs like moorage, insurance, licenses,maintenance ,advertizing ,etc go on while sitting at the dock not making the $1000 because it's cloudy can be annoying. And what's your time worth?If on a good day you make 300 or so and two days with two guests and two days scratched ,Hope the week end is better, because you have been on call all week. It is like fishing, or strolling a street corner . Personally I wouldn't take a paycheck job to replace my life style again and Ive had some pretty decent positions.(In my book) You should remember that I built my boat and this is who I am. It's not for everyone, for sure. Run the numbers, have a business plan,don't sell the farm yet as you make a decision. Or do like I do when faced with a BIG choice, Flip a coin.
Len the thing that stood out for me most of all in your post was that there was not a single mention of the word WORK.

Good on ye'.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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It's supposed to be funny. I've been sailing with passengers for 30 years or so and I might sound a bit jaded. Between spring and fall cruises and 3 months at the Thai beach hut it leaves me the summer months to make the donuts.See my page for a three hour sail. Most tourists have no idea what it's about but want a dream or nice picnic at sea, or.. I offer a sail for up to 18 (not a booze cruise) In spite of comments made here by Captain Ron fans , many guests say it was the highlight of their holiday. So say Fromers and Edmonton Sun.and I'm proud of that. Fixed costs like moorage, insurance, licenses,maintenance ,advertizing ,etc go on while sitting at the dock not making the $1000 because it's cloudy can be annoying. And what's your time worth?If on a good day you make 300 or so and two days with two guests and two days scratched ,Hope the week end is better, because you have been on call all week. It is like fishing, or strolling a street corner . Personally I wouldn't take a paycheck job to replace my life style again and Ive had some pretty decent positions.(In my book) You should remember that I built my boat and this is who I am. It's not for everyone, for sure. Run the numbers, have a business plan,don't sell the farm yet as you make a decision. Or do like I do when faced with a BIG choice, Flip a coin.
Cool. Well I was never planning on making it my source of income. IT is more of a side-business during the warmer months.

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