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Thanks Guys this was a realistic and fair, but helpful thread on the Ketch, We will take our first sail on our newly aquired Allied Princess 36 ketch from Goderich Ontario to Port Elgin this spring, we read all we can about the rig, this was really intresting to read , "A about a rig designed for the boat" We have been sailing a Catalina 27' for years, Our Ketch comes with a mizzen staysail, a roller furling and an Aspin as well. No bow sprit. thanks for info , sincerely Randy Hines
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Ha! LOL im replying to a 10 year old thread, call me another desparate sailor .........
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Ha! LOL im replying to a 10 year old thread, call me another desparate sailor .........
Aaaa - who cares? If it's a helpful thread, it's a helpful thread. No reason to start a new one if there's good stuff already there.
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I mean 8 years old , oh well good info, good commentary, from what ive read very accurate, personally i wouldnt even compare my sloop to a Ketch, they are so different, i always compared my sloop to other sloops, So i will do the same with the Princess 36' Ketch
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Aaaa - who cares? If it's a helpful thread, it's a helpful thread. No reason to start a new one if there's good stuff already there.
So true, These forums have been so helpful to me, and i appreciate the replies and comments, free flow of expirience, there are some strong opinions, but also fair and humble ones as well that bring back the good nugets of truth. It is easy for the greenhorns (18 years sailing) like myself to fit in, and the senior members, pick up and make you feel at home without being arrogant. I appreciate the sublte humor in the threads, but i am off thread now, LOL
My wife and I will cruise North channel, and Georgian bay in our Ketch, I cant wait to feel the difference of my wheel steered 36' ketch after my tiller steered 27' sloop.
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I went from a yawl with tiller to a ketch with a wheel. Also a straighter keel. Not as fun or quick, but very steady on her course, which makes for easy singlehanding.
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My wife and I will cruise North channel, and Georgian bay in our Ketch, I cant wait to feel the difference of my wheel steered 36' ketch after my tiller steered 27' sloop.
Hi Randy, we used to sail the North Channel in our Grampian 34 ketch. Love the boat, love the rig, and love the cruising area down there. We now sail Lake Superior in our Rafiki 37 cutter. Still have three sails, just different configuration. Funny though, we went the other way; going from a wheel on the ketch to a tiller on our cutter. Both are great.

If you get a chance, poke your bow up through the St. Mary's River to Superior. The best cruising ground bar none up here. Just don't go swimming .
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Mine is one-off. Designed by WD Knott, modified by Carl Brorein, built by Nelson Whitesell. She 39'6" on deck, 48' over spars, 12' beam, 5'6" draft, 16 tons (!), about 840 sqft sail area. There are pictures of her here somewhere.
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Re: Ketch vs. Cutter

If you go into Superior, just be aware that you are sailing into one of the most dangerous waters in the world. Superior is different from any other body of water, as those who have sailed her can attest. Even those who regularly sail in her liquid have deep respect for how fast she can turn on you.

One sad example was the experience of a 3/4-time resident there who not only sailed her but designed sail-craft especially suited to her quirks. Rufus Conable Jefferson of Deephaven MN had lived through S-S-F seasons on Madeline Island for several decades, operating a custom boat-works at his home. He went out one day in fine weather to proof the hull of the new 15-foot 'Far Shore Explorer' he just had finished. Weather changed abruptly and without warning, as it is prone to do on Superior. No one knows what happened, but boat and captain both disappeared and no wreckage or body ever was found.

As for swimming, why not? Just don't do so in mid-water - only from protected shallow beaches in Summer. I have seen the water temps on the South inshore at Madeline quite often be up over 70 F out as far as 300 ft from shore and 25 ft depth. I also have bathed in its waters at temps as low as 56 F. However, the average temp in mid-lake is about 40 F, way cold for casual swimming without special gear.

If you do go, enjoy, but do be cautious.

Warm regards -

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