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12-19-2011
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Tayana 42 in florida
Im looking at a Tayana 42 in florida that needs a lot work. the engine needs replaced and the teak decks need redone. there has been water damage in the aft cabin sole that has been repaired. the engine is a big pile of rust from water in the boat although the seller said the water never reached the engine. the water damage came from sitting closed up in the heat. the sails have been in storage and are in good shape.
the guy is asking 28000
what do you guys think
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If you replace the teak deck right, it can easily be a $20-$30k job. The engine will be another $7-12k job. You'll spend upwards of 6 months of hard work on this job...
Personally, I'd look for a boat that has had all this work done already and spend your time sailing rather than working on projects.
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Just imagine what 3-4 years of your time, and a hundred grand in materials would get ya,... imagine every nut, bolt, screw, wire, pipe, every stansion, every piece of chloride cracked stainless steel, several hundred square feet of wet balsa core in the deck, imagine all the components that make the engine work, from the black iron tanks, copper fuel lines, engine, transmission, and v drive, drive shaft, and waterlift muffler, and hoses to connect them. Think of the 2 heads and the paper thin plywood that lines the walls, and the toothpicks it will decintigrate into when you replace it. Imagine the cutlass bearings in the rudder and prop shaft. Imagine the sump pumps, water pumps, water lines, fawcets. Think of the age of the refrigeration, the acrylic of new windows. Imagine what the interior actually looks like now, after she has been used for what ever time she left the dock, and the damage from not leaving the dock. Imagine the gelcoat, with a thousand cracks per square inch and the fun you can have grinding it off and refairing it, then painting it. Just imagine it,... imagine pulling new wires in for all your new electronics, lights, and battery bank. Imagine the new inverter, and all the fun associated with it. Imagine the new hot water tank. Imagine if you took all the little hinges off to refinish all the cabinetry, to later discover that each one was hand made! and no 2 were the same! Imagine! Now wake up, open your eyes, go to the bank and borrow ever last penny you can, buy a boat that you can sail, and GO. Or are you my long lost TWIN BROTHER?
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12-20-2011
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I looked at that boat too. Re-read the post above. I am emotionally damaged enough to LIKE boat repairs. Yes, I'm mechanically declined. I have 30 years experience in factory maintenance. Drive trains, motors and such. You couldn't give that boat to me for FREE.
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12-20-2011
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If I hadn't scared you enough, I could keep going. But I had to stop, cause those dudes with the GIANT butterfly nets were knocking at the front door again, I had to go hide...  If on the other hand you need all the necessary tools, unnecessary tools, and the spreadsheets, schedules, parts lists, and all the ways not to do things, all the prayers I said, band aid count, stitches count, etc. I would be willing to trade,... for just a wee bit of sanity.
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12-20-2011
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A 'decent' Ty42 should be selling in the range of $100-130K; a $28k price is about 'salvage value'.
That stated a Ty42 was a very well built boat with exceptional internal and external joinery. Yeah, leaky teak decks can be a problem but if 'properly' repaired (in sections) are really not that bad of a job for a DIYer especially if the current teak straking has 'thickness' and can be re-milled, the 'wet areas' remedied, the deck then epoxy laminated back in place, etc. I just did the same to a Tayana boat for a 'perfect' deck refurbish and it cost me less than 1 month of labor and ~$2000 in materials.
Leakeage to the interior (from leaky teak decks) is indeed time consuming to repair but the Tayana's 'flooring' are all hand laid up solid teak strakes over plywood for the sole ... and the teak portion can be removed re-milled and reinstalled over new ply substrate - all depends on how 'handy' and fastidious you want to be.
Just looking at a 'rust bucket' engine gives absolutely no indication of 'working condition' ... how many HOURS on this (probably Perkins 4-108) engine?
Although the price may be extremely low-ball, the Tayanas are very will built and usually with little 'hull problems'. If you have lots of TIME and sweat equity to invest, a $28K Ty42 "may not be all that bad of a deal"; ........ but, I'd rather be sailing.
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If the boat is sound, and you have to redo all the systems/deck, etc, and it fits your budget, skills, time, and the your spouse, kids and neighbours can live with it for a few years - hmmm, there's a recession going on - will they consider 14k?
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12-21-2011
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He is pretty firm on the 28. I could wait 3 more years and pay 80 to 100 grand for another one that will still need 20 put into it. or i could buy this one now and spend the next 3 years restoring it. i have a cal 29 now that i have fun on now and will be sailing the sea of cortez this next summer in it and many summers to come if I don't buy the Tayana. ... But then .... I could have the engine done by summer and could be sailing it in the gulf of mexico!!!
I do like working on things. I have a 1976 bronco that i am installing a 4.6 engine out of a mustang in. it is a pain in the ass!!! i had to move the transmission forward, the drivelines had to be shortened and lengthened. the steering had to move over about 2 inches. I rewired the dash and chassis. but dang it, it is going to be cool when done which should be January some time.
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Dude that boat has negative equity as it stands.
Don't walk away from it. Run away.
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